from what i've seen enciling my interaction with general petraeus and general mcchrystal senator, and mean we all have angst about this, but we have got tremendous leadership team. we have put the resources in and it is a very, it very difficult counterinsurgency and as i said in my opening statement and as i've said before i thi kandahar's the center of gravity for this. i think we will know by the end of the year obviously where we are with respect to reversing the momentum and that is one of the key objectives here. what i'm concerned about and i know people are focused on july 2011, we all are in away that we are just not going to know until we get much closer to july 2011, how many troops and where they will come from, the case then the place. .. >> thank you, mr. chairman. mr. secretary, thank you again foyour service. i thk you've been terrific, and i know how hard it is, so thank you very much. the question i wanted to ask, one on afghanistan and one on china. let me take china first. things like here are eurocentric. out west, we look west, and for 30 years now, i've been goi