they see our troopers as the michael jordans of military operations. >> exactly. >> and i realized that was really the case when i saw them look exactly like our troopers, even to the point of wearing their knee pads around their ankles, rather than around their knees. >> the key is see. watch and see them look at our troopers and they say, you can see it in their eyes. that's what i want to be when i grow up. to the extent we have a problem, i think i would say we have to evaluate going forward and i think most of the people on the committee recognize in the beginning the fact that counterinsurgency is not just about our troopers. >> it is a -- at the end of the day it has to be a comprehensive civil military. really, we term it whole of governments with an s on the end endeavor. >> now before i leave the troops, i went to dahlgren and saw the nonlethal weapons down there. i understand you were there, too. and i am, you know, when you go over there and see what the troopers are faced with, the idea that they either have to -- it's easy for us to say, but if there's a bus coming up behi

they see our troopers as the michael jordans of military operations. >> exactly. >> and i realized thatas really the case when i saw them look exactly like our troopers, even to the point of wearing their knee pads around their ankles, rather than around their knees. the key is see. watch and see them look at our troopers and they say, you can see it in the eyes. that's what i want to be when i grow up. to the extent we have a problem, i think i would say we have to evaluate going forward and i think most of the people on the committee recognize in the beginning the fact that counterinsurgency is not just about our troopers. >> it is a -- at the end of the day it has to be aomprehensive civil military. really, we term it whole of governments with an s on the end endeavor. >> now before i leave the troops, i went to dahlgren and saw the nonlethal weapons down there. i understand you were there, too. and i am, you know, when you go over there and see what the troopers are faced with, the idea that they eitherave to -- it's easy for us to say, but if there's a bus coming up behind your con