how you deal with that in copenhagen?>> i think people just throw their bicycle against the wall where they live normally. but it is a responsibility for the city. that is why we have parking spaces were people live and work and shop. -- where people live and work and shop. that is a discussion every time, what is adequate? >> in the netherlands, if you want to have a permit to build a house, it is mandatory that there is a place to park your bike. in rotterdam, they have the same situation. there, they put bicycle boxes on the street. the people who do not have space to park their by -- park their bike in the house, they can put their plight on the lockable shelters on the streets. in the netherlands, they provide for this problem. >> the amount of space that a bicycle and needs versus the amount of space that a car needs. at the very least, we would require parking. if you think about bicycles being the mode of travel, you should require bicycle parking be more convenient. next question. >> going off the bicycle parking

you could say that the voters in copenhagen are very positive about this. last election, it was partly run up by some of the politicians, and one of those was our mayor. the politicians now, they say there is something for everyone. the issues which are the most important to accommodate -- they choose which were the most important to accommodate, and those are pedestrians and cyclists. i think we're doing what is necessary to reach the goal. this is our mayor, a photo opportunity.

. >> think in copenhagen, the status of the car has changed. people are not used to having cars anymore. they sometimes use a car and go to a car sharing club or something. it is socially acceptable to cycle. 30, 40 years ago, you would maybe be seen as a loser if he came on a bicycle, -- if you came on a bicycle, but now it is for everybody. everyone is cycling. it is not, the former generation in the 60's, denmark, they could afford to buy a car and they really enjoyed it. they wanted to show it, and all trips they made or made by cars, the the new generation has a completely different view. >> i already gave my answer during my presentation. it is everything, especially if it is business or businessmen, it is money driven. show it is comparative in cost or it is less cost for business. because if you show that, there is a discussion. >> let me ask before i go to the next question, what in your experience the you believe was the most influential and excepting the different stages of the car and its role in the city? i am sure over 40 years, y

>> i think honestly, it would not be possible to do that in copenhagen is there are so many cyclists which would try to use that service. i think the system would break down. you could do it if you had few cyclists, i guess. we have examples of areas in denmark we have that system, but that is not in the dense areas. >> my name is neil. i am with the san francisco planning department. i wanted to go back to your goal of mass cycling and how to speak forcefully about the boards of providing infrastructure that matches the needs of everyone that you would like to see cycling. he would say there is a fundamental disconnect between stating that goal and not providing that infrastructure. i want your opinion on the second topic that we touched on today, which there was a slide in the presentation, carrots and whips, and whether you would agree how important that is? thus far, and our experience, teh carrots are the things that we have tried to top. my sense is that without those whips, we're not going to achieve that goal of mass cycling without proper infrastructure. any thoughts on that

trying to do is really take a different approach the a national day ago she ations now you saw at copenhagen the goal was always let's just get this big binding international mission so that you know countries will commit to these these reductions but i think see what you want to do is really bring together really the leaders of science and technology policy in these respective countries to figure out what we really need to do is promote technological innovation as rapidly as possible to drive down the price of these technologies globally if we're going to actually make this transition so absolutely united states has got to move forward if we want to compete at the same time we also need to be promoting global investments and that's the great thing about this global competition it's a healthy peaceful international competition in a really critical sector that at the same time can promote growth security and also at the same time fight climate change but how healthy how peaceful is it going to be if americans refuse to move forward if lawmakers of congress doesn't want to pass a bill that hea

. >> well, it is christmas in july in copenhagen, denmark.anta's helpers are meeting to discuss going green this christmas. the big crowd gathered to see the santa parade in the july heat. more than 120 santas from europe and the u.s., canada and japan are in the danish capital for their annual conference. they are changing the decoration on the famous walking street. this year, they'll be environmentally friendly. >>> time now 6:26. new hope for bay area preschools this morning. we'll show you why they will not close after all next month. >> details on a survey filled out on the deepwater horizon are out this morning. see the startling revelations they made coming up. >>> and the sick-out continues. ac transit's labor dispute continues as well. and it could affect your commute. we'll have a live report coming up next. >>> paying more for police protection. oakland city leaders grapple with ideas to get more officers on the street, but it could mean more money out of your pocket. >> and a live look at the long-term lot of one of the bay area'

their there -- there any hope for a global emissions pact which a large -- which largely fizzled in copenhagens that it would be very difficult to get an agreement to the kyoto protocol absent some kind of action. host: sheffield in the united kingdom. welcome. caller: how is everyone doing across the pond? host: just fine. what is your question or comment? caller: considering how much power corporate america has on blocking this kind of legislation, do you think it would be better for the american people to actually nationalize their energy system? when to give back to the american people, is that a proper energy policy like in the u.k. and especially europe? guest: is that nationalizing the energy companies themselves? two callers ago, someone mentioned a carbon tax. exxon has gone against the grain and says that they believe the most elegant solution would be to scrap these kinds of byzantine cap and trade proposals. basically versions of it are still on the table. they want to go with a carbon tax. you can read a couple things into that. one is they believe it is a better way to go. they a

he asked his mother to send him big red soft drinks and copenhagen chewing tobacco in his next care package. he was doing what he wanted to do. he was an army man. all the flags in the small town of dayton, texas are flying at half smast this week. there are signs all over this town of just 5,000, handmade signs, electronic signs throughout the community honoring jesse. the services will be held on saturday at the dayton community center and the whole town will turn out to honor their native son and honor his family. jesse is survived by his wife sara, their 6-month-old daughter, lana rose, and his daughter who is 3. also his mother and stepfather and two sisters. he will be buried in houston, texas. all his fellow soldiers gave some, but jesse gave all in his defense for freedom. our brave troopers go to war defending freedom and liberty in faraway lands. in the dark, cold desert night and the parched insufferable desert heat, these brave warriors pay with their blood and sacrifice for freedom and liberty and for america. they sanctify the -- with their blood lands they have never seen and