and the news. joining us in our panel today are mark weber, director of communications, substance abuse and mental health services administration, u.s. department of health and human services, rockville, maryland; ron tannenbaum, president and co-founder, intherooms.com, fort lauderdale, florida; dr. w. douglas evans, professor and director, public health communication and marketing program, george washington university, washington, dc; sandra de castro buffington, director, hollywood health & society, usc annenberg norman lear center, beverly hills, california. the media obviously influences how people create their opinions, particularly about addiction and treatment issues in behavior health. and doug, why don't we review what we mean about media today. some time ago, marshall mcluhan said that the medium is the message and that is more true today than ever. media have proliferated and they now permeate our society. we're surrounded by it constantly 24/7 and users increasingly are defining what the media are and what those media mean to the rest of us. and mark, why is it important for the media to really understand addiction, treatment, and behavioral health? i

department of health and human services. [music] how i pay it forward is every day i have a recovering family. my wife is in long-term recovery. we have two children, 19 and 17, that we have to role model today, not tell them how to live but show 'em how we lead our lives. they've never seen us pick up a drink or a drug in our life. they think recovery is an asset rather than a liability. i sponsor 17 men in recovery and try to role model who i am to them and now i'm involved with intherooms.com and we have over 80,000 members that i'm grateful to for being on our site and we're growing every day by hundreds of people. and it's not only getting people together, keeping them connected, but we're saving lives every day. so sandra, how can information about addiction, treatment, and recovery be portrayed in the media? well, there's so many different ways. when we talk with writers at the writers guild of america, west, they tell us that their agenda is to tell compelling stories. so we need to inspire them with real stories of r

department of health and human services. people who suffer from drug or alcohol addiction sometimes say hurtful things. they drive the people who love them most away. if you know someone who suffers from drug or alcohol addiction, listen. try to hear what they are really saying. know that there is hope and help them find their voice again. for drug or alcohol treatment referral for you or someone you know, call 1-800-662-help. brought to you by the u.s. department of health and human services. music what i can tell you about the power of recovery is that recovery means being released from those things that have had you bound for such a long time. so recovery means being released. uh, i want to talk to you about the power of recovery also, for me the purpose of recovery. being that i'm in long, person in long-term recovery, over 23 years of recovery, through the lord, jesus christ, and i feel for me it's a release of bondage, it's also a release to give back. to me the power of recovery is all about coming to terms with life.

of the road to recovery. today we're talking about medication-assisted therapy and the whole person approach to treatment. joining us in our panel today are: dr. h. westley clark, u.s. department of health and human services, substance abuse and mental health services administration, center for substance abuse treatment. dr. jane maxwell, senior research professor, university of texas at austin, golf coast addiction technology transfer center; lisa mojer-torres, esquire, consumer advocate, faces & voices of recovery; mark parrino, founder and president, american association for the treatment of opiod dependence (aatod). dr. clark, let's talk a little bit about medication-assisted therapies and how they're used. well there are a number of medications that are used to help facilitate recovery from substance use disorders. the most popular and most prominent would be buprenorphine and methadone. but there are also medications used for the treatment of alcohol. examples of that would be naltrexone and the camprosate or disulfiram. what they're used to do is to either facilitate the recovery of persons through maintenance, as with methadone or buprenorphine, to facilitate detoxification. both methadone and bup

director, center for substance abuse prevention, substance abuse and mental health services administration, u.s. department of health and humanle, maryland; monique bourgeois, executive director, association of recovery schools, fort washington, pennsylvania; greg williams, co-director, connecticut turning to youth and families, danbury, connecticut; dr. mark godley, director, research and development, chestnut health systems, bloomington, illinois. fran, what is the extent of the problem with youth in america? our most recent survey from samhsa is that around 10 million, a little over 10 million of our young people, are using alcohol and substances. that actually breaks down to 26 percent of them are drinking and another 17 percent of them are binge drinking, which is having more than five drinks in a row at one setting. so it's a concern of ours that our young people are really starting to accelerate drinking and drugging than they have in the past.

there woulddbe sending the bill to the federal department of health and human services, getting a check back from the federal department of health and human services for abortions. that sounds like federal funding of abortion to me. but they said that as private funding. in fact, the president said anyone who suggested otherwise was misleading the american people. this goes beyond playing with words. this is a political hopes. a lot of unsophisticated analysts bought it and a lot of people who knew better pretended that they bought. we hammered away at this for months and there is a breakthrough in november when speaker -- when house speaker discovered she could not avoid a vote on the issue, which she intended to do. once the issue was forced into the open, a hoax collapsed+ and the house backed amendment that would carve out the phony leg much -- funny language that would put a ban on federal subsidies. no republicans voted against the amendment at when the votes of 64 democrats, one-fourth of the house democrats. unfortunately, that is not the end of the story. the empire strikes bac

cline, administrator, substance abuse and mental health services administration, u.s. department of health and human services; congressman danny k. davis, 7th district of illinois; paul samuels, president, legal action center; pat george, kansas state representative, district 119. dr. cline, we're spending an estimated $484 billion in health care costs due to addiction. how many people are affected by this problem in our nation? this is a huge issue that permeates every sector of society. we know that there are approximately 22 million people across the united states who are struggling with substance abuse and dependence. that's about 9.1 percent of the population. it's huge. so the problem, one would say, is really widespread around the country, pat. well, as dr. cline pointed out, approximately 10 percent of the population has an abuse problem but it actually affects about 75 percent of our population. and so there is seldom a person that i meet that doesn't have some connection, whether with an immediate family person or somebody that they work with, some relationship of some type, that doesn't h

so under the new law, it's now up to the department of health and human services here in washington to develop coverage for people who live in those states and are hard to insure. even the non-partisan congressional budget office reported recently that the funding of... available for subsidies would not be sufficient to cover the costs of all olympicants through 2013. and a.c.b.o.predicted h.h.s.would have to use its authority under the law to limit enrollment in the program. popper says he thinks the $5 billion is adequate. >> we have ways of managing that money to make it less. we can adjust some of the cost sharing. we can shift money between the states because in some states you could have very dramatic enrollment growth. other states not so dramatic because of the nature of the marketplace. we can also take a look at the way the premiums are calculated. >> reporter: but the premiums, even with the federal government paying a substantial part of the cost, may be too high for some people to afford. h.h.s. estimates premiums will run between $140 and $900 a month. deborah chollet is

last two weeks and they are visiting some of the communities -- i mean, some of the residents in the area. >> we are working with b.p. but our state department of health and human services -- >> excuse me. madam president, could you speak into the microphone. >> we are working with b.p. but they are also being requested to fund the state's department of health and human services' request for many health services so they will have it on a consistent basis, yes. >> and none of you mentioned this -- perhaps it's not a problem -- but when senator graham and i were snoring in the pan hauntle of florida, several officials mentioned to us their frustration about getting their local citizens hired to do work in connection with the cleanup. and that workers from outside of their counties, from their communities were being brought in to do work that could be performed by local residents. is that still an issue here, was it an issue? >> we had to baby-sit it every day, being honest with you, we had to watch was going on and go to command post so you don't get contractors from all over the united states coming in. for instance, hopefully today they are going to hire the local tract

department of health and human services. how was school today? how was school today? your session go alright? you have a good session? want to go to a game with me? i got tickets to the game. talk with the kids in your life about drugs and alcohol and if they're in treatment or recovery, support them, even if you have to practice. i am so proud of you. for drugs and alcohol information and treatment referral, call 1-800-622-help. [music] working as a documentary film-maker with youth, you know, has taught me a lot and i've learned a lot, you know, just in the process of giving back and educating myself to other pathways to recovery. you know, i had my experience, my personal experience and my recovery but, you know, videotaping and capturing other stories has opened my mind to multiple pathways and different ways people recover from drugs and alcohol. fran, let's talk about some of those protective factors that parents can utilize in order to speak to their children and counsel them. well, some of them have already been mentioned about having the parent participate in

of the centers for disease control and prevention. host: well, tell us about your organization and its role in the gulf cleanup. guest: well, c.c. as well as the other components for the department of health around human servicesesponding to the gulf oil crisis from the health perspective. we are the department of health and human services, so we're concerned about the health of the responders and the community and talents health of consumers that are buying and eating sea food from the gulf. we have the food and drug administration which is a part of the department of health and human services also, and they together with the ocean yanek, noah, are monitoring the seafood from the gulf. host: now, doctor, are you also working with the clean yum workers? guest: yes. together with the occupational safety and health administration is to make sure that we're protecting the response workers from the kinds of exposures that they are experiencing in their response work. host: what are you finding from the cleanup workers down there as far as health concerns? guest: well, one of the big issues that a lot of people focus on is exposures to crude oil. whether crude oil dispersements, but our biggest problem is heat exha

of the centers for disease control and prevention. host: well, tell us about your organization and its role in the gulf cleanup. guest: well, c.c. as well as the other components for the department of health around human services are responding to the gulf oil crisis from the health perspective. we are the department of health and human services, so we're concerned about the health of the responders and the community and talents health of consumers that are buying and eating sea food from the gulf. we have the food and drug administration which is a part of the department of health and human services also, and they together with the ocean yanek, noah, are monitoring the seafood from the gulf. host: now, doctor, are you also working with the clean yum workers? guest: yes. together with the occupational safety and health administration is to make sure that we're protecting the response workers from the kinds of exposures that they are experiencing in their response work. host: what are you finding from the cleanup workers down there as far as health concerns? guest: well, one of the big issues that a lot of people focus on is exposures to crude oil. whether crude oil dispersements, but our biggest problem is hea

many efforts with respect to public health in this country and of course the great or wish to work with secretary sebelius of the department of health and human services. thank you for this great honor to be with you today for the unveiling of this important strategy. i also did want to recognize again dr. ron valdiserri. if you would stand up and wave and get some applause. [applause] >> we are very pleased to be with you today because the strategy has been informed by your efforts as you have heard her go the voices of many americans have shaped the strategy, voices of people across the country who are advocating for it and living with hiv. and this strategy pays tribute to the many we have tragically lost to this epidemic, but it also represents a commitment for an entire nation for a healthier future. the message is clear, we need the entire country involve. and this epidemic affects everyone. you don't have to be infected to be affected by this virus. i am especially honored to be part of this unveiling because i have had the privilege of viewing this epidemic from multiple perspectives. first i am a physician and in mica rear of caring for patie

last two weeks and they are visiting some of the communities -- i mean, somef the residents in the area. >> we are working with b.p. but our state department of health and human services -- >> exce me. madam president, could you speak into the microphone. >> we are working with b.p. but they are also being requested to fund the state's department of health and human services' request for many health services so they will have it on a consistent basis, yes. >> and none of you mentioned this -- perhaps it's not a problem -- but when senator graham and i were snoring in the pan hauntle of florida, several officials mentioned to us their frustration about getting their local citizens hired to do work in connection with the cleanup. and that workers from outside of their counties, from their communities were being bught in to do work that could be performed by local residents. is that still an issue here, was it an issue? >> we had to baby-sit it every day, being honest with you, we had to watch was going on and go to command post so you don't get contractors from all over the united states coming in. for instance, hopefully today they are going to hire the local tractors,

of the participants in jobs now are helping out the public sector in trainee positions, contributing to the public good, with a recreation and park, public health, department of environment, and human services agency. i'm happy to introduce the next person. she works for is that the human services agency as a receptionist at the front desk. i get to see her smiling face every morning. her name is carla garcia. carla, come on up. [applause] >> please excuse me. i'm a little bit nervous. i am a single mother. until july 9, i was a jobs not participant. in march, 2009, i was laid off from a local real estate brokerage because of the market meltdown. i was out of a job with very little income and a family to take care of. i tried applying everywhere, answering ads, attending job fairs, but only came up with a part-time job outside the city. i heard about the jobs now program from as ramona torres, who encouraged me to be placed as a public-service trainee with the city and county of san francisco. i interviewed and was placed at 170 otis as a public-service trainee performing administrative duties. [cheers and applause] after being employed -- after being unemployed for what seemed an eternity,

of the centers for disease control and prevention. host: well, tell us about your organization and its role in theulf clean. guest: well, c.c. as well as the other components for the department of health around human services are responding to the gulf oil crisis from the health perspective. we are the department of health and human services, so we're concerned about the health of the responders and the community andalents health of consumers that are buying and eating sea food from the gulf. have the food and drug administration which is a part of the departmentf health and human services also, and they together with the ocean yanek, noah, are monitoring the seafood from the gulf. host: now, doctor, are you also working with the clean yum workers? guest: yes. together with the occupational safety and health administration is to make sure that we're protecting the response workers from the kinds of exposures that they are expiencing in their response work. host: what are yo finding from the cleanup workers down there as far as health concerns? guest: well, one of the big issues that a lot of people focus on i exposures to crude oil. whether crude oil dispersements, but our biggest problem is heat exhaustio

last two weeks and they are visiting some of the communities -- i mean, some of the residents in the area. >> we are working with b.p. but our state department of health and human services -- >> excuse me. madam president, could you speak into the microphone. >> we are working with b.p. but they are also being requested to fund the state's department of health and human services' request for many health services so they will have it on a consistent basis, yes. >> and none of you mentioned this -- perhaps it's not a problem -- but when senator graham and i were snoring in the pan hauntle of florida, several officials mentioned to us their frustration about getting their local citizens hired to do work in connection with the cleanup. and that workers from outside of their counties, from their communities were being brought in to do work that could be performed by local residents. is that still an issue here, was it an issue? >> we had to baby-sit it every day, being honest with you, we had to watch was going on and go to command post so you don't get contractors from all over the united states coming in. for instance, hopefully today they are going to hire the local tract

many efforts with respect to public health in this country and of course the great or wish to wk with secretary sebelius of the department of health and human servicesnk you for this great honor to be with you today for the unveiling of this important strategy. i also did want to recognize again dr. ron valdiserri. if you would stand up and wave and get some applause. [applause] >> we are very pleased to be with you today because the strategy has been informed by your efforts as you have heard her go the voices of many americans have shaped the strategy, voices of people across the country who are advocating for it and living with hiv. and this strategy pays tribute to the many we have tragically lost to this epidemic, but it also represents a commitment for an entire nation for a healthier future. the message is clear, we need the entire country involve. and this epidemic affects everyone. you don't have to be infected to be affected by this virus. i am especially honored to be part of this unveiling because i have had the privilege of viewing this epidemic from multiple perspectives. first i am a physician and in mica rear of caring for patients f

we did this in partnership with the department of health and human services, the american association for the events of signs. we brought together representatives from academia, industry, and live by a to come together to not only talk about the state of the arts, but by having a large law enforcement presence there, i can weed mitigate risks without impacting efforts on all fronts. it was overwhelmingly well received. the spi gained a better understanding of what the different communities represent -- the fbi gave a better understanding with the different communities represented. on the international level, they instituted best practices. they held a workshop to look customer screening matters, too, and to look at a code of conduct to codify the best practices. the fbi, the un biological weapons convention, and the state department were all in attendance. how can we assist in translating this notification process that the fbi had to an international level? we've looked at the end -- competition hosted by mit it this last year -- we looked at an undergraduate competition hosted by mit

call the state of misery and the health and human services department, -- state of missouri health and human services department, and they can direct you to the right places. host: oakland, mary. caller: when you drive through little towns and cities, you see so many abandoned buildings that, with a little bit of work, even for the homeless people, to make apartments and places that they could live in and give them at hand up. the don't want just to be living on the streets. they need a hand up and then they can help themselves. i knew one that waso on heroin and within a couple of years i had him off of heroin and going to college in a different state. he was a wonderful miracle from god. if we are a nation of religion, then we should help out brother and do as much for each other as we want for ourselves. host: we will go to one last phone call here. annapolis, a republican line. caller: canapolis, north carolina. host: sorry about that. caller: i have never called in on your line. i had a couple of comments. i see all this rhetoric about helping the homeless and one thing or another

call the state of misery and the health and human services department, -- state of missouri health and human services department, and they can direct you to the right places. host: oakland, mmry. caller: when you drive through little towns and cities, you see so many abandoned buildings that, with a%little bit of work, even for the homeless people, to make apartments and places that they could live in and give them at hand%up. the don't want just to be living on the streets. they need a hand up and then they can help themselves. i knew one that waso on heroin and within a couple of years i had him off of heroin and going to college in a different state. he was a wonderful miracle from god. if we are a nation of religion, then we should help out brother and do as much for each other as we want for ourselves. host: we will go to one last phone call here. annapolis, a republican line. caller: canapolis, north %%rolina. host: sorry about that. caller: i have never called in on your line. i had a couple of comments. i see all this rhetoric about helping the homeless and one thing or another

of what is contained within this health care bill. we're now three months into it. the rules and regulations are being written in secret by the department of health and human services and this new c.m.s., center for medicare and medicaid service director that nobody knows, the most important man in the country no one ever heard of, donald burrwick. it is no wonder that people are concerned, they are concerned for their own survival because they don't know what the implications are for these things we already passed. people are confused by the stimulus bill because as mr. brady pointed out, there's so much stuff in there that was absolutely unnecessary, had nothing to do with stimulating the economy, i remember in our joint economic committee it was revealed there were so many job crease ated in arizona's ninth congressional district. that was news to everyone because arizona's ninth congressional district hasn't even been created yet. it may in the reapportionment after the census. but right now it stops at eight. is it any wonder people have lost faith with the government's ability to do the things necessary to help the economy recover. it has been educational to s

and try to repeal the health-care laws. if you do that, what would do instead? >> my background is health care. i worked in the red in the administration at the department of health and human services and was the secretary. governor owens asked me to run as lieutenant governor to actually help bring the cost of health care down for our small group members. obama-care is the wrong way to go. we need to bring costs down. we need to make it more affordable. we need choice and competition. we need to make sure that there is portability, that there is tort reform. there are a variety of things that we can be doing to bring the cost down. >> to you believe that health care is the wrong way to go? what i am in favor of repealing healthcare. i think that one of the things that i hear around the state from small business people is that they are afraid of expanding because they do not have the certainty that they need to determine where they will be in a few years. if we do not introduce free- market principles, we will continue to see a growth in government. the trillion dollar deficit that we have will grow. >> do you feel that you to work reasonably close on the issue? >> certainly, we bo

departments that actually provide early childhood education and care. these would include dcyf, human services agency, the first five commission, department of public health, recreation and park, and other city departments. we would also evaluate if the city policies and standards for providing early childhood care and education are contradictory or inconsistent. we have some understanding that there are different programs that are going on by different city agencies, and we would look at that. we would then identified as best practices -- identify those best practices for citywide early childhood education. this would be for san francisco and elsewhere. we would evaluate the duplication of services among city departments, and also those gaps in any program services, those services that were utilized and in underserved communities within the city and county. we would then also look at federal, state, local, or private foundation funding sources for programs for early childhood education service, and look at the city departments that are applying for these funds and how they are using this funding sources. we would also look at any potential overlaps or ga

departments that actually provide early childhood education and care. these would include dcyf, human services agency, the first five commission, department of public health, recreation and park, and other city departments. we would also evaluate if the city policies and standards for providing early childhood care and education are contradictory or inconsistent. we have some understanding that there are different programs that are going on by different city agencies, and we

of old people and the wrong people being institutionalized, and we're trying to get to that with title ii? >> yes that is one thing being used. we are also working very closely with the department of health and human services to use the medicaid program and other funding streams so that we can promote care and treatment in community-based setting's instead of institutional settings. i testified recently before a senate committee about this. money is a great point of leverage. >> some of us are thinking about approaching chairman mailer about hearing on this area of the disability laws because we need to shine a spotlight on impact. maybe we will do that. i am understand the need to seek additional input. can you make sure that basically the legal principle -- that the basic legal principle, the title ii and iii require accessible technology like website is issued maybe even sooner than most of the ranks? >> we're working very hard on this and i assure you that we believe technology is critical. we are working on all fronts making these advance notice proposals accessible. we are also working with existing cases, like the kindle case. >> i think we will be able to get one more question in before we have to

n the deficit was closed, restoring a number of health and human services and also includes sharp cuts to city departments, includes reduction in overtime and layoff of hundreds of city workers. >>> no layoffs but lousy news coming out of silicon valley companies. scott has that. >> we really had grown use ed blowout numbers coming out of companies like apple and apple. now we're getting some of the smaller companies and they're suffering. sman tech in mountain view failed to meet investors' expectations with flat revenue and then inindividual ya, they make the graphics chips for computers, they say demand for its really expensive chips has dried up. it warned it would make less money in the future. as you point out, at least no layoffs. >>> how is this for classy? the "wall street journal" says the hr department at goldman sachs, one of the organizations that led us into economic recession, is asking its workers to stop swearing in company e-mails. now, goldman is famous for e-mails like this one where a trader says that timberwolf was one stinky deal, except he didn't say stinky, referring to a mortgage

and the board of supervisors managed to close a $483 million deficit. the budget restores a number of health and human services but also includes sharp cuts to most city departments. it also includes reductions in overtime and layoffs of hundreds of city workers. >>> time now, 6:38. want to check in with mike, take a look at the commute. >> i'll take you to the peninsula where we have reports of a minor accident, no injuries reported. this is northbound 101, right around third. this is not third in san mateo, third coming into the city. reports of an accident between white and ford van and a mustang. according to the chp, they're very upset. slow drive past the scene but no other major issues. we have a midday game, giants, you may see more traffic late in the morning commute and towards noon because of that game. keep that in mind as well. a live look at the bay bridge toll plaza, no major issues off the east shore freeway or out of the maze. light volume approaching the plaza. no delays even for the cash lanes. little further south, there's an issue for the san mateo bridge. visibility might be an issue toward the high rise, just a haze in the air. so far traff

health and human services of washington, d.c., and lobbying on capitol hill. in september, 2009, she was asked to serve as the community advisory board member on the department of public health research prevention section national medical monitoring project, a c.d.c. surveillance probably designed to learn more about people living with h.i.v. she's also a member of the medicine warriors all nation singers pow wow and events committee. and joan would like to say a few words about gale. >> in almost 10 years gale has been with the native american aids project she's been a beacon of hope for so many of our community members. gale has ensured native people i represented locally in policy decisions. she's become extended family to many of the clients she served, providing compassionate support to individuals supported from their -- separated from their families as a result of distance, substance abuse and/or gender and sexual orientation. she has assisted with the end of life care for many clients and -- -- clients and by making their final arrangement, provided comfort to numerous families sheafments a teacher, a leader, a voice for the underserved and the under-re

managed to close a deficit while restoring a number of health and human services, but the $6 million budget does include sharp cuts to most city departmentsction in overtime, and layoffs of hundreds of city workers. >>> meantime, a new twist in that argument over who owns facebook. there may be a written contract between founder mark zuckerberg and a man who says that he owns 80% of that site. scott's got the details. >> this is a weird story that just gets weirder and weirder. you'll recall this fella, he's from upstate new york state. he invested in the site, he says, that eventually became facebook. well in a courtroom yesterday, we found out, yeah, there is an actual contract between zuckerberg and the fella by the name of paul seeingla that does appear to give seeingla majority ownership. facebook owners says they're not sure if the sergeant is really zuckerberg and there are huge questions why it took the man so long to claim he's part owner of a multibillion dollar website, but this case just got a whole lot more serious. this is the image search on google. google's made it better. you get so many more pictures in the result and yo

of health and human services. but the $6 billion budget does include some sharp cuts to most city departments, including reductions in overtimes and layoffs of hundreds of city workers. >>> well, tonight is your chance to weigh in on plans for california's high-speed rail. leaders will meet to talk about the progress for the san jose station location and the proposed route through san jose neighborhoods. the public meeting will be at gardner community center on virginia street at 6:00 tonight. >>> time now is 5:08. we do want to check in with mike. >> 6:08. >> 6:08, i'm sorry. you cannot sleep for another hour. and you've got a new accident in the east bay. >> also a bummer. we'll tak you to an area where the altamont community express, the ace train, that's moving smoothly on the rails, but we have the roads that are continuing to slow getting into livermore. the debris on the right i showed you at north flynn road, still reported there in lanes, big old pieces s of plywood there. a distraction and that's all you need to trigger another slowdown coming through livermore. 16 to 17 minutes now out of the altamont p

department of forensic pathology i was conducting research into a den of buying human remains. >> certainly quite the variation from a night job. you still work for the health service. >> i work for national health service and in toxicology. you have given up your nice job i certainly have but still read about it. >> she will appear today 3:00 p.m. in san francisco herblock >> thank you for having me nice to me we will take a break if you think that was outrageous weekly meter next guest fear if believe the not we will talk that. this happen in for it fell after trying to subdue the suspect officers opened fire he died at seen. no officers were injured kron 4 jeff pierce has more. >> its guns guns shooting. >> gunfighter kill the man armed with two knifes feared became after a long chase and several attempts to chase him. it >> was not effective he continues to flee and still armed with knives. >> additional attempts failed. >> he comes this way and he goes like that the place were saying stop and the guy did not stop >> he is confronted and taste both times in affected >> conversation turns deadly. >> he turns towards one of the officers knife in hand charges the officer >> the place defended himself and k