. >> let me add into the mix here this week came senator jim webb, a democrat, virginia, who wrote an that raised a lot of eyebrows. we'll put the headne on the screen. diversity and the myth of white privilege that america owns a debt to black citizens but government programs to help all people of color are unfair. they should end. even those in the democratic party say we have to have a real conversation about these issues. >> i don't think there's anybody that says we shouldn't have a real conversation about these issues but there's nobody at this table or frankly most people in america who think that an edited 2 1/2 minute clip that begins driving the news and has reporters saying how will the white house react, it's a huge problem, will they fire her? what are they going to do? that's not a reason conversation. a reason conversation is what the president has tried to promote throughout his career and that he's said we need to have. let's not mistake what's been going on over the past week for any kind of reason conversation. there was a rush to judgment on shirley sherrod and bas

in this country and to recognize their uniquely difficult journey that's all according to senator jim webb who recently wrote an op ed on this issue the thing is it's also about creating diversity and yet now that applies to all people of color to asians and to latin americans that have only recently immigrated some are asking if it's turned into a form of discrimination against all whites so do the poorest white americans whose families have lived here for centuries maybe decades they always get cut in line by those that have just moved here because of the color of their skin or joining me is jared taylor editor of the american renaissance and from our l.a. studio adam learmonth organizer for affirmative action group by any means necessary gentlemen thank you both for being here i will start here in the studio to you affirmative action because people describe it differently do you think that is about reparations and about equality or is it about diversity what i think a more appropriate expression for does not affirmative action but racial preferences that's what it is it's prefer until t