>> my name is randy jones, and -- >> if you work for mr. herrera, you can't testify during public comment. >> but just wanted to answer questions. president peterson: you can use the rebuttal time. is there any other public comment? seeing none, we will move into rebuttal time. you may use it anyway. we will start with the appellants. >> we will defer to mr. randy jones. >> i hope you ask the questions of me over the staff. i can explain it better than they can. they were required by the code. the way that is established is, you make a measurement, 3 feet up from that point, it goes up 30 inches. that is how you get to 42 inches. that number. secondly, he found a lot of things wrong. he called me in. so we could straighten it out. what we found is that there were a lot of dimensions and things wrong. what i did is i did a set of plans. i took his plans. every sheet he drew, i drew an addendum sheet, and it was fine. here is what is approved, and here is what is wrong with it. here is what is approved, and here is what to do. >> may i reclai