we have a note from senior inspector brick color ran -- senior inspector rick halloran that it is ok, with his initials. he looked at the documentation and said this addresses the notice of violation. based on that, our staff approved the permit. that is why no plans were requed. i think, as i have said, both parties are right. we have no problem if plans are required, if the board thinks plans are required. a survey would certainly help resolve the problem. i am not sure. but really, this is not a building department issue. this relates to the ownership, responsibility, and property line agreements. i do not think it is reasonable to ask that the building department somehow be stuck in the middle of saying who has to do what. we do not even know where the property line is. we cannot reasonably try to resolve the problem for these parties. it is very unfortunate that a major remodeling project has to stop in the middle of this while it gets resolved. thank you for giving me the opportunity to extend my counsel. commissioner garcia: thank you. president peterson: what informs the decis