even though you respect the institution, the military of world war i but know there was discrimination that speaking out is not un-american, or inconsistent with our history. is it? >> i'm not calng it un-american. but i think you also have to look into context of the post-9/11 world, where we are fighting a real enemy. and we need recruits and good ones. >> i understand that and i understd the testimony of solicitor general kagan, and you've all noted and see it differently, that during this period of time the recruiters were on campus with veterans' organizations and actually increased the number of recruits. some you said, well, had maybe more if they'd have done it in a different fashion, but i think it was clear from letters we received from this committee, she is not opposed to veterans. she is not opposed to the military. it was a matter of conscience for her to speak out, i respect her for that. she might have done it differently. we all mht have done tings differently, but in the end, there's no question that she has the greatest respect for th military and her country as i have respect for yourselves. thank you. >> thank you, senator durbin. sen