mr. baldanza mentioned going to the store for a refrigerator. lucky for him and the rest of us, we are protected by a large part by the sec. the sec has no responsibility for oversight here, and the consumer has no right to federal preemption, which the airlines can band and fought to expand, so that is central to this idea that the consumer needs protection here. >> we know that there is one person at the witness table that recently went through and examine all of the airlines, and the fees that they charge, and the gao submitted this report to us, so i would ask -- was a simple process to go and understand what fees each airline charges? you just went through this, you and your staff. pretty simple for the average consumer to understand? >> the gao cannot own up to it being a simple process, but we were able to identify those fees that we in fact showed in the handout -- >> with your highly professional staff. at the average consumer? >> absolutely. we agree that the permutations are -- can be never-ending, so we are on the side of making it c