>> going out some days seems like you might as well be going to interya. run down, grab a sandwich and bring it up. >> rose: so what time do you go home generally? most days? >> probably about 8:45, 9:00. >> rose: take work home? >> work is... it's always there. >> rose: because there's a phone call or somebody who needs something and you're the only person... >> review a document, make a decision, problem has come up, have to talk to someone. just tying to move things along. or great idea, how do we get this going? talking to my deputy heather, talking to my chief of staff or someone else on my staff or a call from emanuel, a call from emanuel rahm, a call from rahm, a call from rahm. >> rose: (laughs) and then another call from rahm. >> or he appears. >> all that makes up the day. and i think the thing about these jobs is it that it never stops. even when it's quiet your brain is always going. you're always thinking about it. and i see that... the president and he reads these letters and these problems and all of us coming at him all the time. it's alway