thank you for joining us ira epstein / the linn group. we are now joined by joe cusick / options express. can gold and stocks go up at the same time? it doesn't seem to make sense. you typically would not see that but we are actually seeing another precious metal silver which is also a industrial metal because it is used in allot of chips and things of that nature in the industrial side. it is actually outperforming gold so as people move in to gold because they are hearing potential quantitative easing and the potential for long-term inflation you see stocks coming in and people participating in those. gold is going up as well because of a weak dollar but silver is outperforming it. that is telling us that the industrials could be performing well which is always good for stocks. do you think that traders are seeing this rally in stocks over the last week or so as an opportunity to sell in to that rally? i think you are seeing some of the swing traders. the short-term traders. you are seeing them take advantage of selling into this rally.