j.c. watts and brendan steinhowser, let me go to j.c. haven't seen you in a while.-- are they going to be backing people i guess you'd call the mainstream candidates. mckinnon group is backing whitman, kirk, sestak, that's the bloomberg group. >> chris, i don't have any problem with that. i think they are utilizing the american political system. they are utilizing a process, trying to influence it the way that they would like to see it go. i think the tea party folks are doing the same thing. i think the tea party folks, we're putting them in too small of a box. i don't think it's just ignited here in the last 18 to 20 months. i can make a strong argument that you would have to go back to 1992 with ross perot, then 2004 with howard dean and then you know, here about 18, 16 to 18 months ago, it ignited again. i don't think it started then because of president obama. i think the last two and a half, three years of the bush administration, i saw this and wrote about it for some time and saying this was going to happen. i think the intensity is at a fever pitch level an