microphone comes out in the street, gordon brown comes out, dana cameron is stuck in traffic somewhere. you go to the palace or the prime minister. this drama unfolded and we had a large part of the country with us. and that sense of an entire country connected and sharing the same experience is i still think a magical thing. it's still in some ways in a digital age, it feels even more precious than maybe it did in the 1920's. >> charlie: you have an interesting background coming out of oxford married an american. at the bbc, you came up primarily through the news end. >> yes. >> charlie: you were producer and editor of some of the major broadcasts. >> yes. >> charlie: do you think you look at the job differently than someone who might have come up from the business side? >> our tradition is that we have people with creative background. >> charlie: who run the bbc. >> who run the bbc. one of the things that gives some of my colleagues in a sense the authority is we've done all the jobs. i mean the kids who see this studio with the clipboard, i've done those jobs. i've been the director