i said in order to do that you had to know john and angela rice, and my parents were in many ways ordinary people. my mom was high school teacher, first an english teacher, one of her first children was willie mays that she taught at the industrial high school. she says she told him, son, you're going to be a ballplayer, so if you need to leave class a little bit early, you go right ahead and do that. [laughter] she knew talent when she saw it. she taught school. she was an elegant lady who was a musician, loved to bring the arts to her students particularly, her students in this very poor high school that she taught in birmingham. they had productions, and she was an elegant lady, but an ordinary person, a schoolteacher. my dad was an ordinary person as a minister, high school guidance counselor, and later on a university administrator. he was an athlete and a big sports fan. in fact, my parents had a deal, conny, that may relate to you. our names are almost the same. my parents had a deal. had i been born a boy, i was going to be named john, and my father bought a football for john that