here is todd harrison for the renne ser for budgetary assessment and gordon adams from the simpson centertodd, what is the significance. >> what the commission did, the two cochairs came out with a draft report where they make a number of recommendations. they intended this as a starting point for discussion. if you look at what they did beyond defense spending, about $400 billion in total savings in the year 2015 to rehas the deaf -- help reduce the deficit. so, they spread it around. >> tested entitlements, social security, defense spending and discretionary spending that is not defense. fairly equitable package. most of the things on discussion or highly discussible. they are not wild whacky off the wall options. some are difficult but not off the wall. >> gordon, what is next. this commission was set up to float the ideas. it then goes to a panel and congress votes it up and down. >> not that simple. this as todd says is something the panel has to discussion. it's not a slam dunk that the panel will endorse it. they have to get 14 of 18 votes to put anything in the panel's name. it's