foreign policy towards afghanistan and pakistas today are foreign secretary william hague and karen pierceetary, would you like to start? speeding at think you may be helpful if we get on with your questions. speeding at me say i thank you and your officials. it was very well-received and we sense the people went the extra mile for us and it is much appreciated. is is li can i distinguishve between it s often put to us that al qaedal and the taliban are being grouped together when as you well know they are verye different beings. and, the government justifiesu its intervention ins afghanista, if they weren't there a qaeda would return to afghanistan and could pose a threat to nationaln security security. but a number of our witnesses have disagreed with this premise. what evidence have you got to suggest al qaeda, not taliban, al qaeda will return to afghanistan? >> it's impossible to have direct evidence of something that would happen in a situation. but we do have the experience of what happened before, before 2001, when most of afghanistan was an up and -- ungoverned state or taliban go