here now pete peterson, and the foundation's vice chairman, michael peterson. ongratulations on the presidency. >> let's see how it comes out. >> mr. peterson, i want to start with just a little vocab 101. debt versus deficit. we hear it used interchangeably. give our viewers a little 101 on this. >> three categories. deficits are what happens this year, and debts are the deficits from the history of the country, and then there is a third category that is much, much bigger than what the public hears about. the public hears that the public debt is about $13 trillion. they are not told that we have about $50 trillion -- i said trillion and not billion -- >> right. >> of promises and liabilities, largely, social security and medicare and medicaid, of which know money has been put aside, and those are promises we made. those are off the books. >> mike, i look back at 1992 when the first time the debt, the issue of the debt, ross perot brought it into the forefront and at that time it was $3 trillion. there was a couple years where we balanced the budget as a governm

michael peterson with pacific gas and electric director of emergency planning for pg and e. my timing was outstanding to do this presentation in front of residents that are pg and e customers the front page of the chronicle talked about what, your rates are going up at pg and e and here i am. i mentioned, don't take a shot at me i'm a lonely security director trying to make a living. the other thought was why is pg and e talking about disasters when we cause disasters with our outages. i'm confident we will get that fixed. the key point i want to make here as a representative with pg and e and touched by some speakers. as an organization as a company we realize the importance of emergency planning. disaster planning, disaster recovery. we recognize it from the standpoint it's a grass-roots operation for us to restore power, either gas or electric that we need to have folks ready to planned and engaged in emergency mrarn itting makes our job easier. if it isn't there the crisis and confusion will slow us down from getting people back with lights on and the heat going. that's

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peterson: ok, thank you. >> is there a representative here from the landlord? please step forward. >> i don't have one with me. michael what telwattell. i represent demna drnman drobic. the use permit was a subject of the unlawful detainer from the beginning. one of the reasons mr. drobisch used the unlawful detainer is ike's place had misrepresented the use of their premises in obtaining the use permit the got. they got a use permit for a copy shop and were operating a sandwich shop where they had prepared food and cooked food and that sort of thing. the unlawful detainer was filed march 23, 2010. it had been an issue which ike's place and their attorney had been aware of since that time. there was nothing new. there was no surprise. my understanding is that bike path place attorney -- is that ike's place's attorney was aware of that at the time. the board needs to be aware of that issue. commissioner garcia: were you through? >> yes. commissioner garcia: denam drobisch has the least and is subletting? or is he the owner? >> he is the owner. it was jerry chow who had the initial lease, and ike's place is a sublet of