mr. carrey? >> as i said in my opening comments, we were getting 0 before, so, yes it was an increase, but any increase from 0 is going to be significant, and i do think that you have to have -- look at what we were asking for in the context of the quality of what we provide and look at it competitively again what other channels are asking for, and when you look at other top-rated cable channels, we were asking for a small fraction of it, so, you know, we were asking for an increase and you can say the broadcast business was negligent in past years and may have been the euphoria leading up to 2007 before the market crashed in 2008 and brought home the issues of being a one-revenue business, but what became clear as a one-revenue business, broadcasters were going to have deep problems, and our network today for the each of the last few years has lost hundreds of millions of dollars while the cable channels we compete with, you know, make hundreds of millions if not in some cases billions of dollar

mr. carrey?> as i said in my opening comments, we were getting 0 before, so, yes it was an increase, but any increase from 0 is going to be significant, and i do think that you have to have -- look at what we were asking for in the context of the quality of what we provide and look at it competitively again what other channels are asking for, and when you look at other top-rated cable channels, we were asking for a small fraction of it, so, you know, we were asking for an increase and you can say the broadcast business was negligent in past years and may have been the euphoria leading up to 2007 before the market crashed in 2008 and brought home the issues of being a one-revenue business, but what became clear as a one-revenue business, broadcasters were going to have deep problems, and our network today for the each of the last few years has lost hundreds of millions of dollars while the cable channels we compete with, you know, make hundreds of millions if not in some cases billions of dollars.

mr. carrey? >> as i said in my opening comments, we were getting 0 before, so, yes it was an increase, but any increase from 0 is going to be significant, and i do think that you have to have -- look at what we were asking for in the context of the quality of what we provide and look at it competitively again what other channels are asking for, and when you look at other top-rated cable channels, we were asking for a small fraction of it, so, you know, we were asking for an increase and you can say the broadcast business was negligent in past years and may have been the euphoria leading up to 2007 before the market crashed in 2008 and brought home the issues of being a one-revenue business, but what became clear as a one-revenue business, broadcasters were going to have deep problems, and our network today for the each of the last few years has lost hundreds of millions of dollars while the cable channels we compete with, you know, make hundreds of millions if not in some cases billions of dollar