we don't have any comment, thank you. >> reporter: barbara pagano is not ready to talk about this. before we arrived to her home, mrs. pagano remained holed up in her garage reluctant to face our camera. their home is valued at $340,000. two mortgages on it total 745,000. but there's not an ounce of equity in it. and pa that -- pagano took his own life, his wife is entitled to $500,000 in life insurance. the bankruptcy filing paints the paganos as spendthrifts. nearly $250,000 for four different creditors. names like home depot, nordstrom. they owe thousands to target and tens of thousands in credit card companies. mr. pagano also barrowing heavily against a deferred compensation and life insurance program. how much of the spending was the wife very aware of? she was not interested in speaking with us tonight. >> would you mind answering a few comments for me in >> no comment please. >> reporter: metra officials also did not return our calls tonight. for more on this story, check out the front page of tomorrow's chicago tribune. lots of detail in the filings for sure. >> thanks. >>>