we were joneses, too, but not related. we wanted to be gangsters.rn down dance halls and everything. stealing cases of honey. i drank four bottles of honey. i never drank contee again for 20 years. and we broke into this army one night, during world war ii, and the army campus across from us with the barbwire and 50 caliber machine guns. we broke into the armory. we heard that i screamed and ran pie was coming in at 11:00. -- we heard that ice cream and pie was coming in at 11:00. after we eat it, we broke into rooms. i broke into a room and there was a piano. thank god, i was not stupid, and i listened to god's whispers and touch the piano and that is what i have done the rest of my life. damage your being mischievous. -- tavis: you were being mischievous. >> my stepfather was a full- fledged gangster. tavis: burning down dance halls and bumped into a piano. >> that is right. that saved my life. from then on, no more sports. i started planning to buy, sousaphone, baritone, french horn, trombone so i could be next to the girls and a marching band. i

kcbs radio's matt bigler joneses now with more on what is going on and what's the latest over this fight. >> reporter: well, the fire chief for santa clara county is scheduled to retire in just a few days at the beginning of the new year. and at that point, he will start taking his pension, which is about $212,000 a year. we are talking about fire chief kenneth waldvogel. he will be making his old salary of $236,000 annually. now, as you can imagine, this is sparking a lot of outrage in santa clara county. some taxpayers are accusing the chief of double dipping. >> he doesn't sound right. uhm....... double dipping is a specialty of wall street. >> and i really don't think that we need to spend the money like that when we're laying off other firefighters that we need or policemen that we need. i think there should be another way around that. >> reporter: county executive jeff smith is defending this arrangement with the chief. he tells the "mercury news" the chief is actually saving the county money by sticking around while they search for his replacement. and he will only be staying thro

but don't try keeping up with the joneses. his high-def tv is $40 million and it weighs 600 tons.biggest in the world. >> jones: it goes from the 20 yard line to the 20 yard line, and it creates a perspective from the fan's standpoint that, frankly, they've never seen before. you can see their baby blue eyes when they're in that helmet on this screen. >> pelley: the picture may not be pretty with a record of four and eight, but the cowboys are still riding high. with 32 teams in the league, one quarter of all nfl memorabilia has cowboys written all over it. "forbes" ranks the cowboys just ahead of the yankees as the most valuable american sports franchise, worth more than $1.6 billion. and that's why we were so surprised when jones, sitting in his owner's suite, told us that even now, he's haunted by hard times. >> jones: about 25 years ago, i came here at love field, handed a credit card to get a car. and they went down a list and cut my card in two in front of me, and looked up and said, "young man, you need to learn how to pay your bills." that's hard times in dallas, texas. >>