i think we all received an e-mail from susan brant holly and i think the conversation of what we took in terms of action should be worked on a little bit more. president miguel: commissioner antonini? commissioner antonini: i haven't had a chance to review it. but that will be continued until next week, anyway. clerk: commissioners on the motion to continue -- excuse me, on the motion to adopt the draft minutes from the special meeting of october 21, the regular meetings of october 28th, november 4th, and november 18th, and continue the special environment meeting of october 21 to december 9th, on that motion -- [ roll call ] clerk: thank you commissioners, that motion passes unanimously. commissioners you are now on any other commission matters. any other commission matters. president miguel: commissioner antonini? commissioner antonini: thank you. it's been a sad year in respect that we, over the approximate last year, we lost some major leaders in san francisco. among them, done fisher, walter shoren stein and most recently, mr. toldman, also a marin resident his entire life, mario