and edward mcclellan on president obama's run for the illinois state. >> tonight we'll talk with formerresident bush about his life and book. >> you're through with politics. >> yeah. >> define that. >> i don't want to go out and campaign for candidates, i don't want to be the money raiser, i don't want to be on talk shows giving my opinion. i think it's bad for the country, frankly, to have a former president criticize his successor. look, it's tough enough to be president as it is without a former president undermining the current president. plus, i don't want to do that. in other words, i don't want to be on tv. >> it's about over. >> it is. but i like -- i tell people that one of the interesting things, sacrifice. i don't think you sacrifice to run for president but to the extent you do you lose your anonymity. and i like the idea of trying to regain anonymity to a certain extent. and being out of the press, at least in this stage