more individuals, such as wealthy donors starting propublica. there is another website, spotus, which collects donations to shed light on journalism. so it is not just the night foundation, mccormick foundation, but founders who are interested in democracy, civic engagement, such as open society institute, community foundations. they are supporting a similar project in san diego. so the pool of the founders and donors has expanded. >> some good news on the first row. [laughter] craig aaron, i saw you cringe a little bit when we said the most we support government funding. so what do you support? >> i think the government has a role to play. i do not think they are the only answer. whatever we do, the government will be part of the answer. we need to end this myth that the government is not already involved. usc just did a study that we spend $1 billion a year in placing public notices and various tax breaks, the public airwaves that bring us our television stations. that is owned by the public. when we dig up our city streets to drop the interne

propublica paid a living wage. you have made a career.u have had a daughter and paid a mortgage and lived a life based on being paid in a way that allowed you to be a professional journalist. there's a lot of thought now that professional journalism may genuinely be an endangered concept. is it important? >> first of all, yes, absolutely it is important. one of the things -- the initial rush from the internet began destroying the business model side of this. people say it will not be so bad because we will have crowd sourcing. the crown will investigate things. it turns of that if the crowd were that good at reporting, there would already be reporters. crowds of people do not actually find that much out. the crowd sourcing thing has been the great disappointment. i do believe that the future will bring us more stability. we cannot overstate how much of a transitional time this is. a couple of quick facts for the audience. when i worked at the oregonian, we were in newspaper that was gaining 50% of our revenue for the internet, half of our

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for all those reasons, i thought it was a propublica story.ded to write this differently than someone writing academically. the articles had to be accessible to people who did not know much of lashkar-i-taiba. i focused on david coleman headley. that was was easy. he was american. he had pleaded guilty. he was a lurid character, one of the most interesting ones i have come across in recent years. he was an islamic militant and fears pakistani nationalist, but he had also been a globetrotting, hard partying businessman who had a knack for acquiring wives and girlfriends and then entering them to the point -- angering them to the point where they reported him to the police. he was a pakistani-american at home in many worlds who knew people in high and low worlds. he was more interesting and more dangerous than many western militants we have seen in past cases. the open their rare and extraordinary went to -- he opened a rare and extraordinary window into militant society. especially, regarding his contact with the u.s.-pakistani government and h