if you -- if you go back before the last election, everyone was clear, the iod, the cbi, the governor of the bank of england all said there was no credible plan to deal with the deficit. and if you don't deal with your debt you'll never have growth. that's the truth and he knows it. >> he doesn't understand if you don't have growth you can can't cut it. what the country want to know, what the country want to know from the prime minister from millions of families and businesses are worried about their livelihood s, is he going to change his strategy in any way in order to get the economy moving? >> what we need to do in our country and get the deficit down and do everything we can to encourage growth. but let me just read him today what the head of the oecd has said about the british economy. he said this, the uk was exceptional in terms of its needs of fiscal consolidation because the deficit had gone completely out of control. he goes on, i think deal with the deficit is the best way to prepare the ground for growth in the future. if you don't deal with the deficit you can be assured