and charlie munger's the associate of warren buffett.and i just, i had loved covering courts when i was a kid, you know? my father -- i'm sure this wasn't intentional, he kept giving me books about lawyers to read. [laughter] so i had read all the books, clarence dare row's autobiography and i remember one of the books i had loved the most when i little was "my life in court," and i actually got to interview the author when i was in california which was one of the sort of thrills of my life. and from there i ended up going to american -- they after writing a couple of stories about sort of internal law firm problems, one of them -- the big story was about a crisis they were having at morrison and forester. i ended up getting offered a job at american lawyer magazine which ultimately led to my writing, covering the demise of finley and writing my first book, "shark tank." and it was while i was at legal times that i had an idea for writing a story about one of the lawyers of williams and connolly who i thought had the greatest dream job i