but i think under archbishop quinn and laveda when the terrible scourge of aids came along the outreach to persons hiv positive or suffering from aids, the outreach to that, was something that hasn't been known 20 years before but it was important for the church to gear up. we are one of the major offerers of outreach and assistance and housing for persons struggling with that illness. >> we are going to take a break we will be right back on mosaic >>> welcome back to mosaic. we are talking with the archbishop of the archdiocese of san francisco. welcome back. i want to talk a little in this segment about the witness to the catholic church in the bay area. in recently, two weeks ago there was a walk for life west coast, there were a lot of faiths involved but the catholic faith was certainly involved and there were two catholic women from san francisco that started the walk. you participated and many others did that is an example of catholic witness how do we bring that forward? >> i think it is due to the work of those two women and it is the largest demonstration of its kind or size o