we're moving toward the same goal of slightly modifying our language in section 1290 filed by the nra have become aware of changes from the supreme court requiring a change in the local ordinance. we have taken the narrowest interpretation possible. we do need to make the change on their request. supervisor mirkarimi: is it possible you can just delineate what was changed from the original? please. >> the change we're making is to 1290, which apply to fires -- firearms. we are striking the language and adding it into section 4506. we are doing clarifying of that language. the discharge of a weapon must be allowed in self-defense and by law enforcement officials. we have consolidated all of that language and to set 4506. supervisor mirkarimi: the discharge of a weapon in self- defense by a citizen if they have a permit? >> the new language under this subsection state "persons and unlawful possession of a handgun who discharge that handgun in self-defense." we have put limitations on it. supervisor mirkarimi: what about the qualifier about it being a permit? they have a permit for that

say nra? will say that. and i say no, they are very well organized, extremely well organized. >> the national rifle association. >> wondering whether so many people running around with guns in the u.s. because lobbyists and the like. and so come and get the poor would not have the same force of representation. that's why one campaign we went to 2.5 million members and we are trying to gather that support, and so you credit somebody like david cameron when in difficult economic times he sticks with his commitment to .7% and makes a speech saying we are going to do serious cuts of the british budget but we are not doing cuts that cost lives, and there was a real moment and the british people should be very proud and it's a difficult position for them to hold. so what you can do in britain because the public support, because comic relief and the british are very educated on this stuff and they know what works so we have to do that in all the other countries and, you know, i have to be critical of

there's nothing out there except a few single-interest groups-- nra, pro-life, pro-choice-- there's nothing out there except corporation. auto dealers are out there organized, insurance agents are out there organized, connected to washington and their patron companies. so the biggest secret of democracy is not just that it can work, it's that it doesn't take that much effort by a small number of organized people who reflect broad public sentiments. who reflect broad public sentiments. it may be passive in a lot of people, but that's what i did with the auto safety. >> hinojosa: okay, but i'm sure that people are watching this and they're saying, "well, ralph nader, we actually saw that in this country with the election of president barack obama. there was a movement that wanted change, and some people might say this was, you know, a hopeful change. it actually brought in a change. >> yeah. >> hinojosa: you're incredibly frustrated by president obama. >> well, first of all, he has no organized base. i mean, he got a lot of small contributions, but he also raised, more than any presidential c

there are other outside implications that have huge unintended consequences the nra difficult to settle. it comes down to a who lost, who won in these various things. it is very important in the next two days that polling will start coming out and we will start to get a sense of how the public is perceiving this. that could be decisive. host: as far as the public is concerned, do you have advice on how the public is taking this in? guest: especially with wisconsin politics, every state has a unique personality. there are dynamics going in different directions. ibis curious to see with the act -- with the public is actually thinking. host: dennis cauchon of "usa today." pam from new york. we're talking about state budgets and the protests by employee unions. what would you like to add? caller: i support the people in wisconsin and i think this will definitely coming to new york state. of the problem is that we do not have investigative reporters anyone the report, these people are doing. here in my area we do have one. i would to give you a quick example of the largess that is going on.

they are one part of the nra of opinions in egypt. now, what has to happen is a constitution being rewritten and parties being allowed to form and develop so that people can be represented according to the party that they believe host: new york, republican line, go ahead caller: thank you for taking my call. i guess i have a question and a response. you made a comment about" democracy now" not being backed by corporate sponsors. "democracy in"now b --ehin -- behind "democracy now" and mainstream media, they still are sponsored. you take donations. it could be ideological or could be corporate. guest: is interesting you should raise the issue of the military- industrial complex. it is very relevant today. let's go back to where that term was coined. it goes back to the general turned president, a republican president, dwight d. eisenhower. i read a column every week that appears to newspapers around the country. in the last few weeks, i have quoted president eisenhower several times because this warning about the power of the military-

welcome the great defender of the second amendment and ceo of the nra, -- [applause] our next guest isl chairman of the conference on racial equality which played a very important role in the civil-rights movement. please welcome, mr. roy -- [applause] next, we have a senior adviser to president reagan and tonight's keynote speaker who will get a more proper introduction later. join me in welcoming indiana gov. mitch daniels. [applause] please welcome george will. our next guest started out her career as a democrat. we're glad that she decided the good side to be on. please welcome the american conservative union foundation chairman, -- [applause] ronald reagan chose this man for his 1980 transition team and then appointed him to chair the president's commission on small and minority business affairs. later, he was a special ambassador to -- when that nation got its independence. welcome -- joining us is the southern regional coordinator for why the reagan in his 1976 campaign, -- for ronald reagan in his 1976 campaign. please welcome, cpac chairman david king. [applause] fellow conser

i'm on the board of the nra. second amendment voters, leave my second amendment rights alone. leave my gun rights alone. we don't go around insisting, knocking on peoples doors saying you should be a hundred. you should want to be left alone. all of the various communities, people from the most important thing in your life is practicing their faith and transmitting it to their kids. conservative catholics and orthodox jews of muslims and mormons, they all agreed they want to be left alone so that they can go to heaven if the guy across the table maybe misunderstand scriptures is going to haiti on his own. .. >> i am going to leave your guns alone, money, and i'm going to spend a little too much. there was nobody at the table who threw anything heavy or watch out of the room. there was not a vote-moving part of the modern conservative movement that said spends too much is my vote-moving issue because i know if you spend too much it will affect me. you cannot leave me alone if you're spending too much of other people's money. [applauding] that tea party movement completes the re

i'm on the board of the nra, second amendment voters, leave my second amendment rights alone.eave my gun rights alone. again, we don't go around insisting that knocking on people's doors saying you should be a hunter, we just want to be left alone in that. so all the various communities of faith, people for whom the most important thing in their life is practicing their faith and transmitting it to their kids, evangelical protestants, orr dock, jews, mormons, they do all agree they want to be left alone so that they can go to heaven if guy across the table completely misunderstands scripture, is going to hades on his own. it's not necessary that all of us agree why we're voting for liberty, we vote for the same candidates. and the fellow who wants to go to church all day looks across the table at the guy who wants to make money all day, and they say, well, that's not how i spend my life, and they both look at the guy who wants to pond l his guns -- fondle his guns all day. but on the key vote issue, they wish to be left alone. and that was the reagan coalition, and there was a