movement and is dedicated to making sure a trans national corporate tax dodgers like bank of america exxon mobil pay their fair share of taxes so we can uncut this slashing going on in benefits to the middle class or holding a national day of action this saturday urging people to show up in protest at their neighborhood bank of america branch so far bank of america in washington d.c. has been shut down twice by us on protesters and movement is getting so much publicity in the u.k. that today the government there announced they were raising taxes on the rich oil companies and banks and declaring no more cuts to social programs given that actually the daily taken just a minute but will us on the same sort of response from our government here and tell us is ryan clayton regional spokesman for the u.s. uncut movement brian welcome hey thanks for having me great to have you here with us the first of all why bank of america well big of america's and agreed is tax dodgers you know they made four point four billion dollars in two thousand and nine and zero dollars in taxes you know and if that one compa

china take toppling again so huge energy find it go to one of senator lugar's very strong points exxon mobile is producing at china is in there every day in every way. and we're joined now by investigative journalist and r.t. contributor wayne madsen for this discussion which is fair to say i think it's fair to say very few people are having and when let's talk about the secretary of state clinton you know what put aside this notion of do gooder stuff president obama has not helped the people what side of the argument do you think is the dominant force in america today well i think secretary of state clinton's probably the one who is really advancing the real u.s. agenda and to hear her talk about real politic reminds me of henry kissinger and is this what is a century kissinger in a pantsuit come back to life here but. it's interesting she talked about papua new guinea we have supported regime after regime in indonesia they have half of that island new guinea under their control was spent poor which has an independence movement freeport more in us mining company talked about exxon mobil is a

china take popple in a guinea huge energy find to go to one of senator lugar's very strong points exxon mobil is producing it china is in there every day in every way earlier i spoke to investigative journalist and r.t. contributor wayne madsen he gave me his thoughts on whether clinton or obama has the dominant school of thought. i think secretary of state clinton's probably the one who is really advancing the real us agenda and hear her talk about real politic reminds me of henry kissinger and this is what is a century kissinger and i can't suit come back to life here but. it's interesting she talked about papua new guinea. we have supported regime into regime in indonesia and they have half of that island new guinea under their control. which has an independence movement freeport murrin us mining company talk about exxon mobil is an interesting lolo soetoro who was president obama's stepfather went to work for exxon after he worked for the suharto regime that of course overthrew president sukarno and there was a terrible bloodbath that followed i think it's fine that president obama says t

dollars so it's another example of corporate tax evasion joining the ranks of bank of america exxon mobileand we can only guess how many other companies out there are doing the same and it's all done through various strategies including lobbying she has spent more than two hundred million dollars in the last ten years lobbying on tax reform she is also expanded its business abroad cutting one fifth of its workforce within the u.s. since two thousand and two placing their profits made here at home into offshore accounts and they also hire the best of the best including former i.r.s. and treasury officials for accounting purposes so i'd say that it's pretty clear that our system needs reform but how do we go about doing that joining me from our studio in new york is dr duncan these on a national coordinator for us and welcome thanks so much for joining us tonight now first of all how does it make you feel as a taxpayer firstly makes me really angry to know that g.e. paid absolutely zero nothing in income taxes despite making billions in profits that's right wall the rest of us are being aske

saying brant crude briefly top one hundred forty dollars a barrel in the second quarter meanwhile exxon mobil c.e.o. says prices at the current level are not yet hurting the economy but some u.s. investors do not agree they are chilled by the current oil prices that we're seeing right now after especially true for the nasdaq it's down point four percent dow jones like the one. in russia wednesday's trade ended in the red that's our through our long weekend the market was correcting following a strong previous week but banking stocks were bucking the trend they were on the right supported by for the results from bank of america is burbank up one point three percent of the close bank was the video added seven point seven percent for that the second tier still lower nickel and copper futures are weighing on north nickel shares going down one percent and track yeah it's preferred shares gained eleven percent over the session the stock spiked thirty percent at one point causing an increase in spending of trading one hour but there's been no clarification so far as to the reasons behind. i think th

people in this country to also contribute to deficit reduction you've got to ask corporations like exxon mobil which a couple years ago they die nine hundred billion in profits and ended up paying nothing in taxes and getting a refund from the i.r.s. you've got to start asking those large corporations to start paying taxes as well senator you've proposed legislation a tax millionaires and congresswoman jan schakowsky broke the news of her proposed tax for millionaires sitting right here next to me on this show a few weeks ago do you think either of your proposals years in the senate here in the house will gather steam as more and more average working people realize how badly they're being screwed well i can tell you this there was a wall street n.b.c. poll a couple of weeks ago and this is what the polls. what do you think the best way is to move toward deficit reduction eighty one percent of the people thought that a surtax on families earning a million dollars a year or more was a good idea eighty one percent then they said people what do you think is the worst way to go toward deficit reduc

exxon mobil citibank and bank of america i mean somebody is gaming the system and is gaming the system or you could add boeing wells fargo was to tax evaders as well more than one hundred u.s. uncut supporters shut down the bank of america washington d.c. on saturday so this finally the start of european type activism in america to combat the g.o.p.'s reckless austerity measures for more on this i'm joined a studio by ryan clayton washington d.c. spokesman and co-founder of us uncut and via skype johann hari the contributor to the nation magazine ryan johann welcome both you know tom thanks for having us really return to the show thanks for being here. i'm curious first to light. i was going to give your your u.r.l. in there i was going to throw it in and suddenly it occurred to me i know it's dad or is it us uncut or is it just on it's us got a larger orgy have you got it seems like somebody took the dot com and turned it into some kind of right wing something i always had a long time ago that's not a problem word top of the google it's now ok. let me start with you johann what what d

praise on tax cheats when asked why think progress reporter leaf on it he thought it was ok that exxon mobil the most profitable company in the history of planet earth paid zero us federal income taxes last year at this response that's on hold was a very fine with obama because nothing corporate income taxes to us are if you think that's too much well i think it would be freer if the corporations get it right. and then we can go bankrupt as a nation and let the super rich you don't need governmental services take control of course they'd have to take out the trash but they could probably pay for. and the very very ugly the georgia state legislature the mostly republican state house is on the verge. passing a bill to address their budget deficit it would raise or place new taxes on food and gasoline taxes that mostly if a lower income people one industry that will be affected by the tax hike the girl scouts their cookies will now be taxed taking away money from their support programs and here's the kicker that very same bill lowers taxes on major foreign corporations doing business in the sta

that brant could briefly top one hundred forty dollars per barrel in the second quarter meanwhile exxon mobil c.e.o. says prices of the current level are not yet hurting the economy but investors seem to disagree in the united states u.s. markets are sure are going off especially on the high tech nasdaq and dow jones is up just point one percent right now. in russia wednesday's session ended in negative territory though the nice legs are managed to pare most of its losses by the end of the session it was the first trading session of the week because of a long public holiday second some of the individual stocks bucking the trend with banks they were supported by positive results from bank of america's burbank was getting one point three percent at the close on the my sex bank was the idea second tier stock it added seven point seven percent lower nickel and copper futures were weighing on metal stocks with north nickel shelling over three quarters of a percent actually more than actually one percent of the close and tell their preferred shares gained eleven percent over the session the stocks

chosen to put in his gun sites is a little nonprofit or for big oil companies like google philips exxon mobil and chevron texaco just start selling ten billion dollars a year worth of venezuelan oil here able to fund all of these congress people because of the profits that they're making and that they could be using some of the profits to help the poor matches when citgo to start giving it away even as president obama announced two point five billion dollars in cuts to america's own low income heating oil assistance program following a diplomatic spat washington in caracas remain without each other's ambassadors in their countries but with an arrest in revolution in the middle east americans may be forced to depend more on venezuelan oil as these families are to do kaylin ford artsy washington d.c. and at this hour president obama is headed to latin america of course venezuela is not on his itinerary and instead he'll make stops in brazil el salvador and chile so what is this visit about is about competition or future business earlier i posed that question to deborah james the director of the

a more safe workplace because the food on your table and a call to action make bank of america exxon mobile pay their taxes more on the move and called us uncut as in stop cutting benefits for working people to give tax breaks to billionaires later in the show. while our nation is a war and living in a cloud of radioactivity sweeps across the west coast of the united states speaker of the house john boehner and the rest of his republican cohorts in congress have taken the week off to enjoy the new spring weather. of course for the rest of us any day that republicans are in congress is the day that the middle class isn't getting screwed by their budget cuts unfortunately though in state governments all across the nation conservative governors and lawmakers are picking up on boehner slack and there's a common theme to their crusades if you've heard the story a robin-hood then you know exactly what i'm talking about after thirty years of failed reaganomics that has seen the richest one percent of our country accumulate eighty percent of all the new wealth created on the back a working class am

at all in there you pay more taxes the bank of america page two thousand and nine more tax than exxon mobil paid in two thousand and these corporations that bought our politicians and manipulated the tax code in a way to rip the rest of us also they don't pay their fair share and we're continually asked to pay and all i'm saying is that everyone needs to be paying their fair share everyone should be asked to sacrifice not just middle class americans have already sacrificed too much but you think that part of the problem why and we don't hear about this more often is that because they well it's not just republicans that are down to give you know corporations tax breaks but democrats are and aren't absolute is a bipartisan problem and. today they had a vote in the house of representatives for appealing as well subsidies that we give to big oil doesn't pay his taxes and twelve democrats actually sided with the republicans to remove those to bring in the wrong direction so this is definitely a bipartisan problem the responsibility of ours as well well unfortunately these days it looks like corp

chose to put in his gun sights is a little nonprofit or for big oil companies like a no go fill up exxon mobil and chevron texaco this stuff filling ten billion dollars a year worth of it is still an oil they're able to fund all of these congress people because of the profits that they're making and that they could be using some of the profits to help the poor that just wants it go to stop giving it away even as president obama announced two point five billion dollars in cuts to america's own low income heating oil assistance program following a diplomatic spat washington in caracas remain without each other's embassadors in their country but with i'm asking revolution in the middle east and their actions may be forced to depend more on venezuelan oil as these families are ready to heal and for the artsy washington d.c. . all right deborah james kalan just said americans may be forced to rely more on venezuelan oil certainly not what congress people on the hill like honey mack wants to talk about this. fight this battle that's brewing over venezuelan oil i think it's interesting because we're

in a guinea huge energy find to go to one of senator lugar's very strong points exxon mobil is producing it china is in there every day in every way and joining me now to talk more about this is ohio congressman dennis kucinich and congressman let's talk about this you have hillary clinton the secretary of state on one hand saying you know what sometimes we've got a pretty side that do good or humanitarian stuff and then you are president obama being really firm you know for example with libya we've got to help the people talk about this divide. there's another element called common sense common sense should be aligned with principle and principles are not just the principles of a nation or the principles of all humanity and the truth there's the rest of the power for every one of you and for no one it ought so let's look at how you measure real politic the invasion of iraq was real politic it was also based on lies totally in principle the invasion of afghanistan or the rather the occupation based on a misreading of history and ultimately in principle the attempt to use covert ops to kn

the exxon mobile they absolutely no income tax the quite the opposite they get billions of dollars in return the corporate profits are now reaching unexpected highs and of the economy and unemployment are still completely stagnant. how does that make you feel what obviously paying tax on the very little amount of money that i own relative to these corporations is sickening but that's again us plays into the myth big myth in america that america isn't a socialist country roker is a socialist country it's just socialist the other way around it's a corporate socialist system whereby the rich. profit from from the government the government vote them out when they get in trouble and they get zero percent. loans from the thread. where as if you're poor or middle class or you're in your own business that you if you can survive the market you're on your own the rich however have a rigged system. that's relying on the taxpayers to bail them out when they get in trouble corporate socialism thank you rob something there ben thank you so much for joining us tonight thanks a lot of. now coming up

and we see what exxon mobil spearheaded in terms of the industry consortium to do that, an excellent approach. that sort of thing was done years ago with the marine spill response corp. but i think the funding fell by the way. what we need is to make sure that the public supports that voluntary industry response organization and the industry itself is vigorous in developing and putting it into place. >> i will take a different slant on this. mostly because it is my job to be asking my fellow panelists about this question instead of offering my opinion. you talk about change. these questions are not being asked in a static environment. i did not attend. the companies involved or interested in pushing to the arctic, which has a whole different set of challenges. i think we need to realize and address that the questions we are asking is not being addressed in a static environment. in two or three years, one of these questions will be answered, the industry -- they are already in greenland, alaska and overseas and we need to be aware of that. >> maybe i will take a different tack. we liv

exxon mobil, big oil tax chargers, used oil subsidiaries in the caribbean and they paid taxes in 2009, not a single penny of it went to the american treasury. this is the same year that the company over took wal-mart in fortune 500 and exxon mobil c.e.o., 29 million. general electric, 2009, world's largest corporation filed more than 7,000 tax returns and still didn't pay anything to the american government. g.e. managed to do this with a rigid tax code that subsidizes companies for losing money. with the aid of republicans in congress whose campaigns they financed they exploited our tax codes and who do republicans blame? the middle class. republicans blame public employees, who are america's every day heroes. public employees are america's every day heroes. think about it. if somebody breaks into your house, who are you going to call? a public employee. who is going to help apprehend the people who stole your stuff? a police officer. if your house starts on fire, who are you going to call? a firefighter. if your kid goes to public school, who are makes sure your kid guess in your ch

is this the united states of america or the united states of wall street or bp or exxon mobile or anyer corporation that could run from here after they pollute the water, poison the people? we're talking about having power plants here. in the 1970's we to have power plants here but they to put in poor neighborhoods where people ended up getting cancer, liver disease, kidney disease. millions of dead tuna or sardines are in ocean right now. host: got your point. anything there you want to respond to? guest: i have family who lived next to this town. yes, many college educated people are unfortunately out of a job. host: according to paul white, in 1999 there were 11 million federal government employees. 4.4 million were contractors. 2002, 12.1 government employees. 5.1 million of which were contractors. in 2005, 14.6 million government employees. 7.6 million or contractors. guest: paul is the only one sitting down to try to figure out the number of private contractors who are working for the government. this is the great untold story. if you live in the washington area, you are certain

we have shell and bp and exxon mobil, 485 profit in the last 10,200 jobs. so this is a situation and they talk about understanding the history. everybody knows that the problem is. everybody knows what the consequences are and i just want to make sure everybody knows there's a solution out there. my massachusetts colleague, ed markey has proposed a way to address the problem. first he recognizes he can go back and what the list is bogus and litigation. his resolutions are an alternative to that. they would

we have shell and bp and exxon mobil, 485 profit in the last 10,200 jobs. so this is a situation and they talk about understanding the history. everybody knows that the problem is. everybody knows what the consequences are and i just want to make sure everybody knows there's a solution out there. my massachuset colleague, ed markey has proposed a way to address the problem. first he recognizes he can go back and what the list is bogus and litigation. his resolutions are an alternative to that. they would not allow any nearly 50 companies that are currently benefiting from no royalty leases. those companies have the choice to either keep your no oil leases or begin a fair price and get releases eventually on the deceptive man. now my colleague has worked very closely with the congressional research service to make sure there were no constitutional issues. my question to you, ms. alexander is do you support legislation? >> we work with representative markey. we just want to see this fixed. but that would work coming out. >> now with a history of everybody say

in the new guinea planned mass there's a huge deposit that exxon-mobil is developing. we're in competition with china. it is unbelievable. they're spending enormous amounts of money. they have a huge diplomatic presence across the pacific. it would be great to have usaid office in new guinea to fly the flags of people know we care about them. that will be on the chopping block. it stands for a bigger challenge we're facing in that region of the world. >> china has about a $600 million development program for the pacific island nations. what do we have? zero. >> the chairman of the subcommittee on oversight and investigation is recognized. >> madam secretary, let me compliment you on your energy and clarity after arriving here from meetings in europe and arriving late last night. i do not know how you do it. you do a terrific job in educating -- advocating for what our administration wants to abdicate. i would like for you to be specific. did president obama confront president hu during his visit to washington on the issue of forced abortion? i think that could be answe

oil company profits in the third quarter of last year, exxon mobile, made $9 billion in one quarter,le's gas prices are going up? none of that is on the table. defense spending his summers on the table. host: defense spending is on the table. where are you with those? guest: we are looking at $15 billion in cuts that were included in the appropriations bill that moves forward. defense spends more than all of the other agencies of the federal government put together. over $600 billion, counting the two wars we are conducting. wawr is -- war is very expensive. it costs $400 a gallon to deliver a gallon of fuel to our troops. the defense portion is off the table. we cannot short our troops, our military. we can that short care for those people putting their lives on the line. less than 1% of american families are actually richard keatincontributed to the war ef. george bush decided he would start wars without paying for them, and now we are inheriting that. if you look at defense, it is in the contract accounts. there are more contractors on the ground than there are soldiers in the fie

host: some of the permits that have gone forward to exxon mobil and other companies, they have had toonfirm the they have the safety measures in place to prevent a block. are you confident of that? guest: there are two different systems. the exxon shell, that is trusted because it can control tens of thousands of oil been released. that was the problem. we have no ability to contain the deep water. now we have a system. there are two entities. if a company puts that in a contract to have that available, we need to make sure they are available when we have a terrible thing happened. host: let's go to gregg, sarasota, florida, an independent caller. caller: greta, thank you for the earlier segment. i saw the clip of the shooting incident. i actually saw the blood hit and explored on the door frame. -- explode on the door frame. that is probably what saved his life. you can see it all in 1.7 seconds. that was interesting. congressman, this morning i just went on a wikipedia to look at enhanced geothermal drilling. that is the capacity to get into the ground 5-10 meters to evacuate the ha

exxon mobil made billions of dollars in profit. not only did they not pay anything in texas, they got $156 million refund from the irs. you have large and profitable corporations after large and profitable corporations paying nothing in taxes. if we are serious about bringing an element of fairness into our society and seeing the middle class get a fair shake, we need to ask the wealthiest people in this country and a large corporations to start paying their fair share of taxes. host: we are talking to bernie sanders who servesrs on the budget committee. dennis is joining us from kansas city, missouri. welcome to the conversation. caller: thank you lou. do you know the percentage of children that contribute to political campaigns? guest: dennis, i think you hit the nail on the head. and the working family in america will tell you how difficult it is to get quality affordable child care. years ago as a nation when we said we had the highest rate of childhood poverty, and we understand that if kids do not get the intellectual and emo

there is a huge deposit the exxon mobile is developing. we are in a competition with china that is unbelievable. they are expending enormous amounts of money. they have a huge diplomatic presence. the least we could do is have a usaid office in delaware new guinea so that we can fly the flag -- in papua new guinea so that we can fly the flag and people will know we care about them. >> china has a $600 million program. what do we have? 0. >> we have worked with the united nations significantly, and china is working very hard to undo that. >> first of all, madam secretary, let me compliment you on your energy and clarity. after arriving here from intings in europe's -- europe, and arriving late last night, i do not know how you do it. you have done a terrific job been advocating what your it ministration wants you to advocate. -- you have done a terrific job of advocating what your administration wants you to advocate. did obama confront president hu jintao on the issue of forced abortion? i think that could probably be answered with a yes o

you have all this money given to wall street and these corporations like ge and exxon mobil. at the same time, everything is so messed up with both democrats and republicans and the white house. they are just not looking out for the average american citizen. if you had started from the top with holding those people accountable, such as wall street where they screwed up the financial industry -- some of those people should have went to jail, just like enron. they should not have gotten bailout money. at the same time, we have to find some way to keep these corporations out of the white house and out of washington. talk about what is really broken with the political system in washington and in the white house. host: norman, oklahoma. katie, republican. good morning. caller: good morning. i blame the democrats. for all these years, they have promised and promised and bribed all the poor people into taking more money so they would keep voting for democrats, just like the union, but nafta did not send all the jobs overseas. it is because the unions priced themselves out of jobs. i

we have shell and bp and exxon mobil, 485 profit in the last 10,200 jobs. so this is a situation and they talk about understanding the history. everybody knows that the problem is. everybody knows what the consequences are and i just want to make sure everybody knows there's a solution out there. my massachusetts colleague, ed markey has proposed a way to address the problem. first he recognizes he can go back and what the list is bogus and litigation. his resolutions are an alternative to that. they would not allow any nearly 50 companies that are currently benefiting from no royalty leases. those companies have the choice to either keep your no oil leases or begin a fair price and get releases eventually on the deceptive man. now my colleague has worked very closely with the congressional research service to make sure there were no constitutional issues. my question to you, ms. alexander is do you support legislation? >> we work with representative markey. we just want to see this fixed. but that would work coming out. >> now with a history of everybody s

kara and the oil companies had been rather the order of fields and been turned over to exxon and co town and mobil and to any end to rust cannot be rewarded with five percent of the shares of theone richard perle the prince of darkness one of his principal advisors khadafi is part of the us imperial hedge omonia he had capitulated to imperialism in the late one nine hundred ninety s. they are making a noriega out of him today because they want to have troops on the ground to dictate the outcome of the struggle in libya and in the surrounding countries it is a naked undertaking and a country selling regimes of the arab league with. muso who is after all a colleague of mubarak giving their approval even as the saudis and the us direction are slaughtering the population in buck rein in yemen humanitarian concerns are granted to me riddle to do with the role i put it saying that i thought may doesn't the fight like it does phase broken i was saying that justify that intervention. there is no we know just the case and for imperial forces to intervene in libya and is nonsense about a ceasefire being vio