supervisor avalos: our obligations around greenhouse gas emissions, traffic increases creating more greenhouse gas emissions don't matter because we'll move this project forward regardless of what the law would be in the state of california. >> that's not true at all. the impacts are full li --fully identified and qualified. supervisor avalos: but it could get worse? >> greenhouse gases, in balance, no. traffic, yes. supervisor avalos: greenhouse measurements during construction -- what are mitigating measures around reducing greenhouse gas emissions during the construction phase? >> measures are following the guidance of the fair air quality management district. they primarily have to do with dust containment, with the types of vehicles that are used, the primary source of construction emissions, contrary to popular perception are the vehicles that are used. supervisor avalos: are commutes into the area also what of what you want to insure >> they're an area of the collation. supervisor avalos: is there any amount of using local hires to be part of projects? >> it could be something that was

>> greenhouse gases, in balance, no.

ritter of greenhouse gases. india is growing, really in other places aside from the united states, they have to take action if and only in the united states where we have been lagging, even if we were enthusiastic attacking the problem of global warming it wouldn't be enough because there are so many countries that are big e matters. >> maybe facebook will do it. >> maybe. is doing amazing things around the world. anyone who figured out how to combat global warming with facebook i would like to hear the idea. >> we should have long lines at these microphones. you don't ask questions we will ask you questions. >> i am a skeptic. i'm not a skeptic about climate change. we had climate change ever since we had climate. what are amish skeptic about is the predictions. i clearly remember back in the 1970s when i was an undergraduate the predictions were be where, within a few decades we will have an ice age. now based upon data from prestigious universities like he's anglican, that all of a sudden the ice age predicti

so the greenhouse effect is a natural phenomena. the greenhouse effect your used to hearing about on the news by president bush and all those other experts is the incremented effect well we've added about a third to the sea level and as well as others but if you want to question the viability of the physics, here's a great example. now, this is looking forward. these are these so called, emissions scenarios. you heard of the intricate climate on government changes which will announce it's first reports for the global assessment coming out this summer and spring and in order to conduct those experiments they have to make assumptions about the future. what sort of loading of the atmosphere we'll see in terms of greenhouse gases and here's a swarm of different scenarios which of course depend on economics, sort ofgeo political relationships, regulations and technology and so forth. the environmentally friendly scenario that you might look at is this green one down here, and the more carbon intensive fossil fuel economies are these. thi

on greenhouse gases. fired got this old cold- plant in alexandria that is redundant, and we still not -- still cannot get it closed down. some of us would like more aggressive action. i know how deferentially you want to speak to the industry and you want to make sure everything is done right. but there is a bucket -- another point of view from the one express, but -- from the one expressed. during the consideration of the cr, mr. cole, the author of the amendment to stop epa regulation of greenhouse gases, said, "this will rein in epa and prevent them from implementing the so- called cap and trade monstrosity on states like texas." i did not know that bp was trying to implement cap and trade. to the greenhouse gas regulations that epa implemented in december institute cap and trade without congressional action? >> no, we have taken no steps to establish a cap and trade program and we do not intend to do so. i join with the president in calling for legislation in the absence of that. >> without congressio

they are looking for a greenhouse gas freeze san francisco, -- gas free san francisco. part of our challenge is to achieve that broader goal, even though we do not have hit direction over the decision making that goes into the p.g. any service, -- pg&e service. that is why, president vietor, we work on how to empower the customers, behind the meter, what actions they can take with in their control as businesses and residences. you will see on this slide the strategies to achieve behind the meter improvements. not listed on this slide but ever-present is the fact that the cca program will provide the vehicle to get to those residences and the decision making on electric service provision for them. then, when we step away from behind the meter, we also want to look at our second strategy, reducing the amount of what is applied -- supplied to customers from the wholesale market. for the power that we provide, of course, it is greenhouse free, and it is from the hetch- hetchy system, but what about everyone else? here are strategies that help us to get to that wholesale mar

using so much energy to take the salt out that you are going to create a lot more greenhouse gas emissions by burning the energy to do that. this will like -- this will be like trying to bail out a boat with too small a devices said the plugging the holes. the environmental groups are going to try to steer us away from that. i was surprised to hear staff is not up to speed on composting toilets. they have become very sophisticated. there are systems to use in multiple room buildings and they are not just use in rural areas but in suburban households. it will create jobs to have as people come in and pick it up. thank you. >> that they do have some very unique -- also on desalinization, there are concerns about that out there. if that is why the review is in place. >> we have talked about the constructed wetlands before. i am a big fan because they provide a big service and they can really help to mitigate. i would encourage our waste water team to be looking at wetlands opportunities along the bay and what we might be able to at least pilot sooner rather than later. >> the problem is that

ritter of greenhouse gases. india is growing, really in other places aside from the united states, they have to take action if and only in the united states where we have been lagging, even if we were enthusiastic attacking the problem of global warming it wouldn't be enough because there are so many countries that are big e matters. >> maybe facebook will do it. >> maybe. is doing amazing things around the world. anyone who figured out how to combat global warming with facebook i would like to hear the idea. >> we should have long lines at these microphones. you don't ask questions we will ask you questions. >> i am a skeptic. i'm not a skeptic about climate change. we had climate change ever since we had climate. what are amish skeptic about is the predictions. i clearly remember back in the 1970s when i was an undergraduate the predictions were be where, within a few decades we will have an ice age. now based upon data from prestigious universities like he's anglican, that all of a sudden the ice age predicti

it is a ridiculous use of the space and it is bad for greenhouse gas emissions. this needs to be sent back to the factory, and it needs a scaled-down alternative that uses a lot less parking. >> the promise that there will be rent control is inextricably linked to the eir. the demolition of garden apartments is not an impact. that is why a they can find that there is no displacement in this project. it is not opening an environmental review sometime down the road where they find this is no good. >> i will give a very short brief. can you consider the rent- controlled development agreement? it cannot be relied upon because it is essentially even the people the support it say it is cutting edge. what you do in a situation like this, the sacramento city association, what that says, if you can't be sure that a measure is going to work, you have to identify that as significant and undergoing an impact. you can say you have mitigated [unintelligible] a has not identified the displacement that may well happen and cannot be relied upon to be mitigated. i would ask you to

finally getting back to the greenhouse gases, last slide. as you put that together you have to keep an eye on what is the carbon footprint and it's tough to get around. we have to develop models so every urban model plan is addressing greenhouse gases in a similar fashion. thanks. [applause] >> i'm the last speaker, everybody is hungry. susan got me here and if you saw the al gore movie, she told me i would be a lost speaker and she said, and that's where you do your best works a you wrap up. i'm here is a the chair of american water resource foundation. i'm going to talk about a report done that's fundamentally the best resource any water manager could have right now. many of us have too much to read and someone said here's a 3 hundred page thing and this is called primer. i actually read it, 65 pages and it has a very detailed cd. what this starts is how many of us can tell us the fundamentals of climate and weather change. most of us, one man? then you don't need to read this. the fundamentals of that we learn listening to the radio or wa

to the consumer and greenhouse gas emissions that we don't even quantify. so combined egg la tore ri and state and agencies coming to to identify solutions - even those that we have not put into effectively as i think we could. >> thank you. i'm going to the floor. >> i'd like to jump in as a comment from the floor? >> you may. >> the points peter made were very good ones. whether it's the planning or possible solutions, whether it's trying to get land use departments of our various countys to pay attention under the regulatory or legislative aspect, somebody even mentioned taxes, to make tough choices whether their solutions peter made or raising fees or taxes to support these efforts because some of these solutions - eventhough - in the long run will pay off, initially, they will mean some action, some heavy lifting by our coleagues and heavy lifting by our different elected leaders. to get that done, i believe it goes back to the point of public engage meant so, what i'd like to do right now is say, let's follow up on the comment that lester snow made ab

we can't ignore our contribution to the greenhouse gases. those all have to be part of the way we proceed. i only have 2 hundred slides so don't panic out there. the simple point here, i don't need to spend a lot of time. but in california we're seeing reduced snow pact and earlier snow melts are changing everything. higher temperatures are changing our ecosystems altogether. also the temperature of the water we have for certain aquatic species. when we look at snow pact changes one of the questions was the different changes. what we typically do is say we expect at least a 25 percent reduction by 2050 some we expect a 50 point acre foot. we will lose 25 percent. some other projections have it losing 40 percent by 2050 which is not far away and there are projections worst than that. typically we have shown the nature of the reduced amount of run off that occurs as a result of run off. we're looking at this differently from a flood perspective, next slide. this may not be obvious but this is the peak day flows so it the highest you experience

first of all, greenhouse gases. you know, we have heard so much from so many people on how aggressive you've been on agree house -- on greenhouse gases. we have this coal fired power plant that's redundant, and we still can't get it closed down. some of us would like a little more aggressive action, but i know how defer renne issue you want to be to the industry and you want to make sure everything is done right, but there is another point of view from the one that has been expressed particularly on the floor of the house when we were considering the cr, and during consideration of the cr, mr. poe from texas, the author of the amendment to stop epa's regulation of greenhouse gases, and i quote, "this amendment will rain in the epa and prevent them from the cap-and-trade philosophy." other members said they were trying to implement cap-and-trade. do the greenhouse gas regulations finalized in december actually institute cap-and-trade, and do you intend to implement cap-and-trade in the future? >> that's no and no. ep

what are your greenhouse gases and where do they come from. everybody not agree on all of it but it's useful to have that baseline information, especially if the state moves to a cap or you get credit for reduction. some of you might be starting that already. >> i'm glad you mentioned greenhouse gases. the conference is on co2, there are others and methane comes to mind. many that are much more potent than carbon dioxide. i know that's by far the largest amount but there's the embedded question that i'd like to know are these other gases, what the water agencies can do to manager those. >> i think one more. someone that hasn't spoken frequently. in the fourth row? >> i'm with the seattle utilities and i want to expand on barries partners for example anding the funding i was recently in conference in washington and focused on carbon markets and there's a lot of discussion about linking up with the california system that's going to be emerging, whatever that may be along with the, i think its the reggie, system. there's a large aount of money tr

if you ever seen those abandoned greenhouses, that is what we are talking about, for decades, tons of pesticides were poured on to the plants that were growing here. it got so bad it became a toxic waste site. today the city of richmond and state of california begins to change all of that. take a look at some pt representatives, meeting out here today. they are ecstatic what is going to be happening the transformation they have planned. first of all there will be a cleanup, federal and state epa is involved. federal government providing the $600,000 in seed money to clean up the area. the redevelopment area that purchased the site in 2006 is now moving ahead with a very green and job producing project. >> all the building will be green certified community and green belt that they are putting into the design as well as urban that we think will reduce greenhouse gases and off set some of the carbon. >> by cleaning on up the site the number of jobs that are available through the hazardous material cleanup portion and when the new construction, there will be even more job opportunities. >

that's what we're talking about in terms of concentrations of greenhouse gas. let's go to the next one. here is a whole bunch of model runs from thcipc, imagine there's international groups running different scenarios with different climate models and so forth and we line them all up so that the top we're just looking at one spot or grid or one pixel over north california and the models are run not only forward in time but also retrospectively. run back. they can replicate what we've seen and that's one of the tests of climate models and what we see is, without a doubt, every climate model is warming. this is the 0 line today is todays so we took the actual temperature out of it. we'll call that 0 the departure from todays level. and this is 2100, so we can see here are those numbers that you heard earlier in the day rises the temperatures from 2 degrees celsius to more than 7 for california. this is the annual average temperature. precipitation is done in the same fashion down here. my coleague mike calls these spaghetti diagrams for obvious reasons. this is s

. >> hi i'm dave erickson, we work on local solutions reducing greenhouse gas emissions. we have reductions and we're also very aware that governor targets the state 80 percent reduction 80 percent by 2050. given this need to reduce greenhouse gases significantly and given the direct relationship between water use and energy of greenhouse gas issues, do you think it's going to beness at a local level to put a cap, or a limit on the absolute amount of water that's used, or to start putting in place policies - such as no net increase in water - you say in a general plan or something like that further tests? >> couple of thoughts about action at the local level and those are not sort of tools we've thought about but there's interesting things happening the cities for climate control campaign. something like 50 municipalities signed up. so through the general purpose around the west about 50 western water providers are part of that campaign already. the municipal water district when jarrod hudson was the first to sign up for that from a new system provider. i think it's a rea

if you ever seen those abandoned greenhouses, that is what we are talking about, for decades, tons of pesticides were poured on to the plants that were growing here. it got so bad it became a toxic waste site. today the city of richmond and state of california begins to change all of that. take a look at some pt representatives, meeting out here today. they are ecstatic what is going to be happening the transformation they have planned. first of all there will be a cleanup, federal and state epa is involved. federal government providing the $600,000 in seed money to clean up the area. the redevelopment area that purchased the site in 2006 is now moving ahead with a very green and job producing project. >> all the building will be green certified community and green belt that they are putting into the design as well as urban that we think will reduce greenhouse gases and off set some of the carbon. >> by cleaning on up the site the number of jobs that are available through the hazardous material cleanup portion and when the new construction, there will be even more job opportunities. >

wrongheaded greenhouse gas regulations, so called guidance on surface mining. the retroactive call permit that has undergone more than a decade of environmental review. reopening the longstanding definition of, quote, fuelled material, quote, that could have devastating impact on the mining sector nationwide. all represent constitutionally dubious legislation by regulation. i think you exceeded your authority by far. a number of these are being adjudicated by the courts even as we speak. we've corresponded, you in dhaka, on a number of these topics and so you are aware my people feel like epa has taken dead aim at an industry that sustains 20,000 high-paying jobs in my state of kentucky. and supplies to fuel to power 50% of our nation have a low cost. our speaker in recent weeks has reiterated the need for adult conversations about the fiscal challenges that confront the country. and i hope that is what we can accomplish here today, an adult conversation. thank the chairman. .. glad to see the administrator jackson submitted the reasonable request to allow subs

mean it's -- it doesn't mayne make a lot of sense in this case because a.b. 32 is about cutting greenhouseas gases which at ground level don't do harm to anyone but the argument was, wait a minute, these greenhouse gases get capped and other dangerous gases that do harm locally, things like ozone and fine particulates, they may still fall out locally. >> felicity, when we are talking about neighborhoods that are in some of these areas, west oakland, richmond. >> right. wilmington. >> right. have they in danger. do they have a case that these big companies get to throw things out in to the air by these pollution -- purchase pollution allowances and still harm the health of the people in the neighborhoods? do they have a case there? >> well, all i can say is the judge -- it was a two-part decision and the judge rejected all of the arguments that had to do with what the group seems to want. i don't want to say they did want, but they were pointing towards direct regulation, which says you must industrial facility, you must cap this am and you can't buy it off with an allowance. the judge said

thank you. >> restore, greenhouse gases.you know, we have heard so much -- first of all, greenhouse gases. we have heard so much from so many people on how aggressive you have been on greenhouse gases. we have an old cold bair plant in -- coal-fired plant in alexandria that is redundant, and we can i get it closed down. some of us would like a little more aggressive action. i know how deferentially want to be to the industry and you want to make sure everything is done right, but there is another point of view from the one that has been expressed, particularly on the floor of the house. during consideration of the cr, mr. poe from texas, who was the author of the amendment to stop green has gases regulation said, "this amendment will rein in epa and prohibit them from implementing these so-called capt. trade philosophy in states such as texas." others said the epa is trying to trade.nt capital-lette and so i want to ask you, do you intend to implement that in the future without congressional action? >> we have taken no steps