>> the late senator hubert humphrey said very poetically. society is judged by how it tech -- how to treat people in the dawn of life, the twilight of life, and the shadows of life. the twilight of life and the shadows of life is what we are talking about when we are talking about the oldest old. right now, we are just talking a good game, but we are not doing anything about it. all i am hearing right now is cut, cut, cut. i am not a financial expert. i believe the deficit is a problem, but where are the politicians who will tell people, if your not going to kill granny with that horrible right ring slur about health reform, then we have to pay for what lies ahead. this is not only a moral issue. it is also an issue of reason. the numbers don't add up, the right wingers keep saying. one of the numbers that does not add up is, just what are we planning to do? we cannot have a consultation with our doctor about whether we want to be hooked up to tears at the end of our lives, but we don't have to pay as much as we are paying for medicare. inst

it was a hubert humphrey poster. >> rose: for both of you? >> yes. and the poster said "some talk change others cause it" because even as a young man i knew i only wanted to talk change. >> rose: (laughs) >> hers was autographed, her father worked for humphrey. so hers was... we had that on our walls. >> rose: and their life turned out to be reflected... your characters' life turned out to be reflective of those two ambitions. harold wrote about change, he was a scholar, and she was active and moved from business into politics. >> into politics. but when we fall in love, a lot of it i say is rational, so people marry people with nose width of similar width, the immune systems tend to be complementary. but sendall had a great concept called crystalization, these austrian miners who take sticks, put them a mine and come back weeks later and they'd pull the sticks out and crystals had formed on the sticks and they'd glimmer and this is what we do to our beloved. we imagine them as enchanted. and that's the way the research meshs with the literature. and

sugar and by laissez faire than lyndon johnson did by beating them over the head like he did with hubert humphrey. it is great to be here with richard again and john testified. i felt like we had not done enough on the continuity of government issue. john was able to give expert testimony and janet i look forward to having the media wrapup. she covered me good, bad and of what was on the mountaintop and when i crawled back up the second time. i am delighted to be here. his senate reform and oxymoron? oxy-moron. or is it oxymoron like? ic? the senate is what it is and it is good. what i make changes? yes. >> and did i make changes, yes. how was on the floor of the senate and experiencing a real time lashing from senator byrd was accusing me of trying to make the senate a mini-house. he drew on the fact that i had been on the rules committee in the house and that i really wanted the senate majority leader which i was of the time to become the rules committee of the senate. that was actually not true. let me warn you in advance that i'm an institutional list. i have been since i was a child. i have