i do agree that the northern alliance -- what we used to call the northern alliance is fractured. marshall faheem has been pointed out has been more or less coopted by the president and other elements of his alliance stand in political opposition to the presidential palace. so the army is the most important way to measure this question. and i do think that there's a lot of hedging going on and a lot of use of international investment in the ana to try to prepare against the possibility of being back in a civil conflict. and there the recruitment of pastuns of the officer corps, especially a general officer corps is a concern for the -- those leaders of the northern groups that are thinking about the possibility of having to fight another civil war against the taliban, which would be serving again as a proxy for the pakistan army. and that is that they don't want to build a coup in the army in advance of such a conflict so they're going to be very cautious about which pastun officers they allow to rise up inside the army and to build internal networks among officers. and i think --

>> of course, france -- what more can the alliance do? >> of course, france and britain had this meeting today. intensifying the operations, it is interesting that the secretary-general did not talk about intensifying at all. he talked about maintaining the military operations. the other thing that had been talked about had been back perhaps nato members supplying the rebels with arms. the french foren minister said explicitly yesterday that france was not in favor of giving arms to the rebels. what else can they do? one of the things that concerns the nato ministers a great deal is the humanitarian situation. that is the third 0.1 of three points. -- that is the third point of three points, providing humatarian pick aid, that the regime must allow humanitarian aid. the united nations would have to request that a parent it has not done so at the moment. if it -- request that. it has not done so at the moment. >> opposition groups believe their country is poised on the threshold of change. after decades the gaddafi autocratic rule, they wa

i am co-coordinator of the urban agriculture alliance. we are a volunteer community group with over 30 members that advocates the growing of food in san francisco. a number of our members are here today. they are not all planning on speaking. could the folks who are here to support this please raise your hand? a lot of people here to support this proposal. i hope you will. that is the main message i want to bring today. the corps proposal as well as the amendments are great additions to san francisco zoning code and i hope to support them. the bill's sponsors, as well as the planning department, drafted a proposal that is very well tailored to san francisco. i would like to emphasize that as much as i use the language of urban farms, what we are really talking about is gardens. they are not going to be huge farms like you might think about in the country. most of them are going to be less than 1 acre. those that are not fall under another category. about the amendments -- defense an amendment is crucial because it keeps costs down. the or

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we are proud to be supportive of the san francisco urban alliance activism. and hopefully around the world. i also want to say that our head of food policy is here. i know at what help us make sure that children and residents, not just their but in the neighborhoods that have a healthy and locally grown produce will have more access. at a recent panel that we were on, and want to see this expanded to every single square mile of the city. this is a really good start but we need to implement the mayor's initiative. we have to be the shining example for the u.s. and also this world. thank you for being here, everyone. >> i also want to recognize his supervisor avalos. next, i want to introduce a community representative that played a key role in policy development, and that is of the sentences of zero urban agriculture alliance. they promote the growing of food through advocacy education and grass-roots actions. >> today is a good day for san francisco and urban agriculture. san francisco because the leader of cities nationwide that are revisiting their local re

this week the bric alliance officially becomes the brics alliance with south africa joining the group of emerging global powers at this year early summits this time held in china now as the nation's meet to discuss reforms to international political and monetary institutions one thing has become very clear they have an increasing amount of influence in global affairs and that they plan to use it to go to has the story. while the old world order may be pumping money down the drain on war in libya the new world order is fighting battles that can be won on the world's money and trade market brazil russia india china and this year's new kid on the block south africa have gathered on the chinese island of hainan to talk business and it's not just about economy it's about politics as well though the brics countries do put a heavy emphasis on economic issues broader political questions such as the situation in northern africa and the middle east are also going to be hot topics for discussions recount to stare hold. or un resolution and so she was very wise in terms of we're not going to get

alliance relations there in march because there are many other issues there to russia and a major have to call the rage you see this is fighting drug trafficking and fighting terrorism and so on barges off cause this way of conducting international relations doesn't improve. the whole atmosphere in this type of relations you see because both in european countries and in the rush of the different forces the different political parties are different our forces and of cause i'm a new russia now feel there you know russia has been actually basically scamps especially during the years u.n. resolution and of course now. russia's going tough on to the whole station leave it because. you know regime change taken once inside the civil war in the country and of course it's absolutely except by. the international case so you're saying this this will not improve relations between this western alliance and russia but there are other realms for these parties to work together on up an hour so we left off you talk to the libyan prime minister on saturday calling for the violence to stop and proposing

and japanese policy- makers, alliance managers, continue to elevate the importance of the bilateral alliance at exactly the moment china had become more assertive diplomatically, and that alliance drift was halted. then again after the 3/11 crisis, it looks like the relationship was further enforced. the jury is still out on what 3/11 will ultimately mean. still, this, too, agreed four spaces in a national security perspective. these contradictions of policies are reflected here in a revised model. somewhat familiar to us. for example, when you look at the southwest, as in the original model, there are those who trust -- distrust for entanglements. they are not just on the right. there on the left as well. there would prefer japan with the independent military capability. on the far left, no military capability at all. they see no reason to hedge their bets on china or the relative decline of the u.s.. from their view, japan should regain full sovereignty and provide for itself in a self- help world. we talk about internal balancing. this group includes pacifists, an indication that the pref

continues between pro and anti government forces in libya amid reports of more nato air strikes the alliance is targeting colonel gadhafi troops but experts suggest the rebels could be equally at risk because the alliance is using deadly radioactive i mean ish. and the idea of a multicultural europe is under more strain it's only a struggling to cope with a rising wave of immigration from violence has the power of countries and france is facing a muslim backlash over its ban on the book. and the publisher of a finland the place the website used by one of the world's most wanted chechen terrorists goes on trial for smuggling not extremism this follows the defrocking questioning of a priest who criticized the same site all being a terror enough piece. lecture on r.t. pakistan's prime minister talks to us where he explains that the war on terror is impossible to win and so his country's seen as part of the international solution and not as an enemy you without. parties joined by pakistani prime minister yousaf raza gilani thank you very much restlessly for being with us. for years terrorists an

this time around that will determine if this economic an alliance also has political teeth then things aren't going so well between the u.s. and pakistan thanks to drone strikes and the recent case of raymond davis pakistan isn't too fond of the cia but is there any hope that this relationship could be revived but another area facing serious problems right now mexico and central america u.s. military officials have now said that the drug war there is as violent as the wars in both iraq and afghanistan but what can the u.s. do to help that we haven't already tried before and today the house voted on that old so contentious budget bill let's look at the bigger picture here are the politics the debating and the media buzz surrounding this is it safe to say that this is going to dominate the two thousand and twelve elections and more importantly the race to the oval office and if you fact cat bankers might be shaking in their boots today a new report has come out from capitol hill suggesting that some major wall street players lie all testifying before congress on the financial crisis and

ground time sweden makes the troika critics claim there's so much have gone through port for the alliance the nordic nation might as well join the club officially and give up its unaligned status. and use the now i r t gulf and sweden russian pilot constantine or xango is facing trial on monday in new york for alleged international drug trafficking he was arrested by u.s. officials in liberia last year his lawyers accuse american agents of kidnapping and torturing a pilot and artie's honestly if you're going to reports this is not the first time the u.s. has targeted it russian citizens. a legit tons of cocaine a pilot snatched up and brought to a foreign prison and a wrong fax number this is the case of constantine your shann pro russian pilot in his forty's scooped up by u.s. officials in liberia last year prior to a manhattan jail and along with four other suspects charged with international drug trafficking. for a long time he did not even know where he was when he was brought to the u.s. he was put in solitary confinement and he didn't even know he was in the united states constantin

colonel gadhafi is troopers but experts suggest rebels could be equally out of risk because the alliance is using deadly radioactive i mean assuring. the idea of a multicultural europe is more strained it's really is struggling to cope with the rising wave of immigration from violence in our countries and france is facing a muslim backlash over its ban on the book. and the publisher of a finland placed in website used by one of the world's most wanted chechen terrorists or goes on trial for smuggling not for extremists this follows the defrocking and questioning of a priest who criticized the same side for being a terror nothings. and up next raised leading a russian expert on international crime gives us his view on the underlying nature of terrorism and its sources and most notorious i think is and without. i think another discipline of thank you for being with us today once again rumors about the death of russia's most wanted have been flying around do you believe that they'll call more of his dad unfortunately we don't presently have any official confirmation as i know the required m

controlled oil field is said to have been destroyed by the coalition calling the true motives of the alliance into question in libya. and the crew of the international space station prepare to celebrate fifty years since the government's first flight into all this event that inspired it generations to reach for the stars. and a news just in a seven point four earthquake hits northeast japan leading stocks worldwide to shrug off an aftershock and russia's market and first they said one percent down more than that since twenty minutes time in our business for those of. you with r.t. live from moscow now a finnish priest is charged with inciting a racial hatred after speaking out against russia's number one terrorist talk will not off and his internet propaganda all of this during an interview so out see the pastor also claims he's been receiving a constant death threats from the leader of the chechen militants however in finland the creased is being seen as the real criminal. reports plus a view from a liar is being prosecuted for inside seeing really just a traitor in court publicly criticizin

that -- the san francisco burbot alliance. it is remarkable how they have built strong legislation with supervisor chiu and the mayor's office. they held meetings with community-based groups. they are clearly building at more of a movement in san for cisco -- san francisco. i really applaud that democratic, grass roots effort that led to this legislation. i am proud to be a sponsor as well. thank you. supervisor chiu: can we take the motion to amend without objection? we take that same house, same call? the ordinance passes on the first reading. next item, please. >> item 11 is an ordinance authorizing a settlement agreement and related lease amendment with the sentences of 49 years -- san francisco forty- niners. >> without objection, this passes on the first reading. >> item 12, a motion appointing dorothy liu to the ethics commission. supervisor chiu: supervisor marc? supervisor mar: thank you. i want to recognize her dedication, but i want to recognize another applicant, mr. alan grossman. i do appreciate her work and her

limits of the un resolution so says russian foreign minister sergey lavrov at the summit with the alliance in berlin. the global financial system must be overhauled to prevent future disasters says the russian president at the start of an economic meeting in china the asian davos. international news not from our studios here in central moscow this is just past eight pm here in the russian capital and seven pm in finland where the publisher of a finnish base website affiliated with internationally wanted terrorists has gone on trial however authorities in helsinki are turning a blind eye to his extremist links and instead prosecuting we call the store sure for allegedly smuggling chechens into finland season lisa now he is following the story from outside the court. my hearing has begun in the criminal case against me store sir who is the founder and main editor of the website called cost center this is a site that according to international law and most certainly according to russell falls into the category of terrorist propaganda that is not what this hearing is about they feel sorcerer i

and that alliance is very wide it begins in iran some elements in iraq's government are part of the syrian regime has been on hamas in gaza so if the international community or united nations all united states are going to apply to syria all of an economic meaning a direct intervention or political tremendous pressures what they may get in return is the reaction by the iranian regime by hamas by hezbollah and others who the consequences if nato and the u.s. stick up their operations in syria many fear could be the same consequences in terms of what we've witnessing in libya. maybe but it's in an operation that's already be on on the go for several months and many fear that it could continue for months if not years really the situation in libya is a parallel to what we witnessed thing happening in syria today they were experts who are suggesting that this could lead to the eventual supplying of weapons to the opposition in syria in libya we heard nato and the united states saying that the libyan leader moammar gadhafi is not a target now we're hearing some western powers saying that

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clearness as a set of political alliances and possibilities, not necessarily related to institutions of gender and swam formativity. danny and i wanted the show to feel funky and to have a really tangible quality to it. so part of that was incorporated handmade objects and installations and beautifully printed photographs and videos. there is also a lot of opportunities to participate and to take postcards or to get the photo taken or sit within a tent made out of afghan blankets to watch videos. the exhibition is organized in three distinct galleries. in gallery one, which is the gallery designated to clear activism, there is an installation by the oakland-based collaboration and it's called "unleashed power." it's all focused on one protest that happened in chicago in 1991 with the activist organization act up, which was protesting the inadequate health care for people living in aids, and specifically it focuses on an act of police violence that occurred at that protest. the thing that is really interesting for me about that piece is that it brings us back 20 years to what clear ac

the rebels alone are no match for a guy feels superior forces and it's only with the help of the alliance that something could be achieved but the question is how far is nato itself planning to go you've got to spin off towards the eastern libya by the way you can get all the latest developments in libya on line you can check out regular updates from our correspondents there in the country on our twitter and facebook pages and don't forget to watch all the videos which are constantly being uploaded to you tube channel. swedish fighter jets are preparing to take to the air to support nato forces in the operation above libya stationed at italian bases they'll be used to enforce the no fly zone although sweden isn't a member of the alliance itself well that's not stopped the government from also committing troops to afghanistan public anger for what's seen as the authorities dancing to the tune of washington and the somali has more. sweden widely known as a voice of neutrality and peace and swedish people believe still believe that we are nonaligned and the truck. why then does we didn't nee

the rebels alone are no match for gaddafi he's superior forces and it's only with the help of the alliance that something could be achieved but the question is health for is nato itself planning to go you've got this going off the eastern libya. coming up in just a few minutes here in r t sweden commits its forces to operation odyssey dawn find out why some swedes are unhappy about their country's role in the intervention and stockholm's cozy relationship with nato. in syria and other arab country torn by an anti-government uprising tens of thousands have marched in memory of protesters killed on friday the country's president bashar asad has blamed western influence for the turmoil in the pan journalist james core bad believes foreign military intervention could be on the cards for syria with iran the ultimate goal. the president is being set right now with the libyan case and if they're able to get away with it i suppose if the forces of western imperialism are able to get away with this in libya then it's really just a question of implementing the same scheme in syria and we've seen how

it's about time sweden makes the droid's critics claim there's so much hands on support for the alliance that the nordic nation might as well join the club officially give mark on a line status and he's now i r t sweden. get all the latest developments in libya online just a couple regular updates from correspondents in the country you can do so via our twitter and our facebook pages either forget to watch or the videos which are constantly being operated rather to you tube channel. without a life from moscow now a russian pilot accused by the us of international drug trafficking is facing trial in court. was arrested last year in liberia brought to the states illegally that's according to his lawyers. reports some see a tendency in america over snatching people. a legit tons of cocaine a pilot snatched up and wired to a foreign prison and a wrong fax number this is a case of constantine your shann pro russian pilot in his forty's scooped up by u.s. officials in liberia last year brought to a manhattan jail and along with four other suspects charged with international drug trafficking. f

the ground times we did make the detroit critics claim there's so much have gone support for the alliance that the nordic nation might as well join the club officially and give up its unaligned status. and use the now i r t gothenburg sweden. well we are keeping you updated on the latest developments in libya on air and online and can follow our twitter stream any time r.v. correspondents are on the ground in media bringing you the latest developments and eyewitness accounts of the fighting log on to find out what post we're is hearing in tripoli with your position on keeping you up to date from the rebel have been you can also follow us on our facebook page as well as check out the latest videos on our you tube town. well russian pilot konstantin here she is facing trial on monday in new york for alleged international drug trafficking he was arrested in liberia last year by u.s. officials who failed to notify moscow claiming communication boy was to blame the pilots lawyers accuse american agents of kidnapping and torturing him as our season associate tribune reports it'll take more than

libyan rebels lash out at nato anger with the alliances tactics of the country grow together with a number of civilian casualties. as the new crew arrives at the international space station to mark half century since man's first wife and orbit will carry out the latest ambitious space project. telling out in the russian capital you're watching r t with me rita joshua welcome to the program a priest in finland is being accused of inciting religious hatred after he described one of the world's most wanted man as a terrorist police have questioned the pastor after he gave an interview to r.t. in which he discussed the man behind the moscow metro an airport bombing so with now across life parties going to the trouble carried out that interview good morning to you covering all you travelers of finland i'm personally talked to the man so what exactly is he accused off now mary we should understand there are two parallel processes now going on in finland in the first place this is the lutheran church john mollari easy christo lutheran christan the church is now considering developing him wiring h

unravels lash out of nato as anger with the alliance tactics of the country grows together with a number of civilian casualties. as a new crew arrives at the international space station to mark the centuries announced birds fly into orbit it will have the latest mission space projects. and business russia's consumer confidence declined in the first quarter of this year due to rising commodity prices and poor harvests business bulletin for this and other stories in twenty minutes. watching r.t. coming to live from moscow nine am here in the russian capital i'm marina josh welcome to the program crease in finland is being accused of inciting religious hatred after he described one of the world's most wanted criminals as a terrorist i used the word you would interest you used the word. police have questioned the pastor ever gave an interview to r.t. in which he discussed the man behind the moscow metro bombings you have a laurie has been a long time critic of a website called the cost cost center where stream is freely express their views and i was the first to publish remarks claims respon

the rebels alone are your match for a guy he's superior forces and it's only with the help of the alliance that something could be achieved but the question is health for is nino itself planning to go you've got this one off forty eastern libya so you can get all the latest developments about libya online just check out our regular updates from our correspondents who are in the country if you saw via our twitter and facebook page just now don't forget to watch all the videos which are constantly being uploaded to parties you chuck. as a starting swedish fighter jets are preparing to take to the support nato forces and the operation of libya station about italian bases they'll be used to enforce the no fly zone but the sweden is not a member of the alliance itself but that's not stop the government from also committing troops to afghanistan destroying that public anger for what since the authorities dancing to the tune of washington are seen since and now it has. sweden widely known as a voice of neutrality and peace and swedish people believe still believe that we are nonaligned and the tr

>> reporter: well, the alliance claimed they were targeting a command-and-control center. however, libyan authorities say that it was an attempt to kill qaddafi himself. nato says it's maintaining a high operational tempo and it could be crucial for the alliance, because italy is the closest nato country to libya, right across the mediterranean sea. >> couric: mandy, i know there's also been fierce fighting in the town of misurata. how are the rebels there doing? are they holding on? >> reporter: well, it was another bloody weekend. rebels are now taking back key areas of the cities that were under government control. some of those forces that didn't make it out of the city are now surrounded, and they're essentially behind enemy lines. the rebels are capturing prisoners, and they're discovering some of the fighters are as young as 16 years old, and others are mercenaries from neighboring african countries. >> couric: mandy clark in libya tonight. mandy, thank you. in other news, you often hear the word "remarkable" when doctors describe congresswoman gabrielle giffords' r

the rebels alone are no match for a guy fees superior forces and it's only with the help of the alliance that something could be achieved but the question is how four is nato itself planning to go you've got this going off forty eastern libya and you can get all the latest about the developments in libya online just regular updates from our correspondents in the country you can do so via our twitter and facebook pages and of course i don't forget to watch the new videos constantly being uploaded to our team's you tube channel. well swedish fighter jets are preparing to take to the air to support nato forces in the operation above libya stationed at italian bases they will be used to enforce the no fly zone or vote sweden isn't a member of the alliance itself does not stop the government from also committing troops to afghanistan drawing public anger for what's seen as the author of he's dancing to the tune of washington and he has more in. sweden widely known as a voice of neutrality and peace the swedish people believe still believe that we are nonaligned and the truck. why then does we

some say the ground time sweden makes the droids critics claim there's so much support from the alliance that the nordic nation might as well join the club officially and give up on the lines. and use them now i r t gough and burke sweden we're keeping you updated on the latest developments in the air and online and you can follow our twitter stream anytime you like his correspondents are on the ground in libya bringing you the latest developments and eyewitness accounts of the fighting in log on to find out what we're is here in tripoli with the workers cannot keep you up to date from the rebel stronghold of benghazi and you can also follow us on facebook as well check out the latest news in our you tube channel. russian pilot constantine here shankill is facing trial on monday in new york for alleged in an international drug trafficking it was arrested in liberia last year by u.s. officials who failed to notify moscow claiming a communication was to blame the pilots lawyers accuse american agents of kidnapping and torturing him and authorities in essence he took in reports it'll take m

enforce the no fly zone over libya despite the fact the sweden sweden isn't even a member of the alliance swedes are already venting anger at their government for committing troops to afghanistan and they feel their national interests are being sacrificed to nato and the u.s. are to use any so now reports. sweden widely known as a voice of neutrality and peace and swedish people believe still believe that we are nonaligned and the truck. why then does we didn't need antiwar groups like oh fuck sweden is very integrated involved in the those activities. in their administrative and also with over five hundred soldiers in afghanistan right now that are under nato command or whatever the previous government or thing that the fact the government for this about swedish combat troops in afghanistan we see our participation in international crisis management missions and a popular mandate as an expression of solidarity and responsibility of sweden in the world. the question is whose popular mandate welcome when you talk about need it's a concept that's what it's sticking because you don't it. mos

nato forces will continue their operation in libya as long as gadhafi is in power so says the alliance secretary-general anders fogh rasmussen some accuse nato of going and beyond the un resolution and. the global financial system must be overhauled to prevent a future disasters as according to the russian president at the start of an economic meeting in china dubbed the asian tigers. and business because bob dudley has met the head of rock of the most going to be the first in the salvation says walk deal between the two companies let more of that kind of business put it in front of it said. he with r.t. live from moscow welcome to the program the publisher of a finished basement website affiliated with internationally wanted terrorists has gone on trial however or thought he was in helsinki are turning a blind eye and she was extremist links and instead prosecuting the store show for allegedly smuggling chechens into finland and he's now and i was following the story from outside the courthouse. hearing has begun in the criminal case against mikhail stores or who is the founder and ma

the latest exhibition lists clearness as a set of political alliances and possibilities that it is behind the sphere of dominant gay and lesbian culture. the curator fills us in on the process of creating this thoughtful exhibition. and what she would like you to take away from it. >> i co-cureated with danny, a chicago-based writer and curator. the conceptual framework is what it means to be clear and radical for our generation. clearness as a set of political alliances and possibilities, not necessarily related to institutions of gender and swam formativity. danny and i wanted the show to feel funky and to have a really tangible quality to it. so part of that was incorporated handmade objects and installations and beautifully printed photographs and videos. there is also a lot of opportunities to participate and to take postcards or to get the photo taken or sit within a tent made out of afghan blankets to watch videos. the exhibition is organized in three distinct galleries. in gallery one, which is the gallery designated to clear activism, there is an installation by the oakland-based

they're saying alliance had correct evidence tanks were being used but was not aware rebel forces werelso using tanks. >>> in the middle east, in response to air strikes hitting a bus and killing five people. >>> a study found that liberals have more gray matter in the part of their brain associated with understanding complexity. on the other hand, the brains of conservatives were larger in the section related to fear. >>> and an extraordinary cosmic blast in a distant galaxy has astronomers puzzled. they say they've never seen anything as bright and long lasting as an explosion picked up last month by a nasa satellite. the burst was probably caused by a star that was ripped apart after drifting too close to a massive black hole. >> and now here's an early look at how wall street will kick off the day. the dow opens at 12,409 after falling 17 points yesterday. the s&p lost 2 points and the nasdaq shed 3. taking a look at overseas trading this morning, in tokyo, the nikkei gained 177 points while in hong kong the hang seng added 114. japan's powerful aftershock sent waves of fear across

alliance will will fall apart and they'll make a peace with gadhafi i think that's what he believes what you mean by the west is not going to get rid of him but what you mean by that. well you know it's doesn't take a lot of common sense to see that airpower has done about all it can do it for the last week or so they've continued to attack in the gadhafi forces keep moving forward toward toward the resistance. at the end of the day there's no way to get rid of gadhafi unless you put ground troops into libya and i don't think the west is going to do that and i think that after he knows it and so he's planning just to hang on that the u.s. ground troops there in libya at the moment. we certainly probably have special forces and cia officers who are trying to figure out who the resistance is but also preparing landing strips in other areas of of concentration in case the west decides to put troops in there part of the mission clearly is to get ready for an influx of troops do you not think though that despite you saying probably they could be cia agents there that what we are seeing though