. >> we have to look at the best ways to bring about prosperity in black america.the mantra of bigger government and more taxation and increased bureaucracy has not given us the results we're looking for. therefore it's prudent for us as african-americans to look for the best resolutions possible and perhaps there are solutions that we feel, we feel confident in, that the republican party offers when implemented properly will bring about better iscation for our communities, et set ta ra. >> why would black people make this choice as opposed to using the same arguments in the democratic party it? >> i wasn't always a republican. my parents came from haiti and they identified with the democratic party because they were told that's what black and working-class people do. what's sort of converted me, if you will, after i began working in the inner city as a school counselor and witnessed how a lot of democratic policies purported to help black people to their detriment, that's when i sort of reevaluated my allegiance. >> arm strong, you identify as a conservative but d

>> i think right now the state of black america is similar to the state of america.focus on job creation. i think infrastructure investment is an appropriate vehicle to use to get out of it. that's why we're investing $1.5 billion in hartsfield jackson international airport which is literally providing a local payroll of $30 million plus for local women and minority-owned businesses and putting people to work. we also have a major infrastructure bill in the state of georgia that's focused on metropolitan atlanta. we have a referendum in 2012 for a 1% transportation sales tax that will generate thousands of jobs for our region and invest $8 billion in transportation and infrastructure investment. we think that that is the right investment right now and we believe that it will begin to stem the tide of unemployment in the city of atlanta. we're also taking responsibility for ourselves. i partnered with ed baker, who is the publisher of the "atlanta business chronicle" here and we're focusing on our own businesses. we started an initiative called the hire one campaign t

as a black person in america i thought that was only reserved for the white people." >> yeah. >> hinojosa: so now, you know, when you look out, people still see you as a black man in america. >> yeah. and i am a person of color. >> hinojosa: yes. >> yes, i am, you know. >> hinojosa: but at the same time, you've gone through this very profound experience. how has it changed you in a profound way? yes, you are a black man in america, and yet you're saying, "i'm connected to the earth, i'm a human being." but i think that's really what it is, is that once you can let yourself out of all of the pretenses and the connections that people, say, put on you, and then come back to that place where, "yeah, oh, i'm different." i look different. i'm not denying that. but we're all connected, and we're all the same as well. so i think that's where we're ying to get to. or anyway, that's where i got to. >> hinojosa: you started driving again, or using a car, in 1995. >> right, yeah. >> hinojosa: you started using your voice in 1990. so, you know, when you look back, did you in fact change the... i mean,

>> i think that the more educated -- look you don't have to look further than black america.ck women have been outnumbering black men in colleges and advanced degrees for a longtime. you have more black men in jail than in college. there are tremendous trade offs to that. because when you go out and get your degree and want to have a family or want to date, there are fewer males that you are probably going to look at, because of the discrepancy in terms of where they are in life and what they have achieved. >> well, are you saying in a way this is a bad thing? you are a very educated --. >> i am. you have your phd? >> no. it is a problem because it limits your opportunity sons. i'm saying there are trade offs. i think people -- how would you know. there are tremendous trade offs in women advancing because i think men still very much see themselves as providers. and the more that women are able to pro is vid for themselves and have options then men become and in the black community, optional and that is not a good thing. >> the economist did a wonderful piece about how the uni

when i was fired, it caused a ruckus in black america, on the radio, on the internet, on television.>> why were you fired? tavis: about an interview that i sold to abc when somebody thought i should have sold it to cbs. i offered it to cbs, cbs turned it down. i sold it to abc, and when it aired it kill cbs in the ratings that night and the folks realized doesn't this guy work for b.e.t., whom we own. so i was fired and it was a very public firing. got fired immediately, all over the news, "new york times," time "time" magazine, washington post. so it was very public but i found that the public appreciated what i was doing every night on television in a real and significant way that that kind of ground swell is what led to pbs being interested in me and npr and cnn, i used to co-host talk back live in the day at cnn. all those networks came to me because i could see the following i had on b.e.t. and they were, like, if this guy can do o.k. at b.e.t., we should give him a shot here so that's how i failed up. >> you believe we're all have an act ii? >> i think we do, but i think we're

it's still largely about black america and white america trying to find each other. and right now 1 out of every 6 children america and i think i got that statistic right is latino and the conversation has not caught up to that. i mean, if you visit -- and it's not just in southwestern cities. it's really all over america. there's a fast-growing latino population and the conversation of race and it's is not fully -- does not fully embrace that except, you know, in the main, when you're talking about immigration and that's often a conversation that is very prickly and is born of debate but there is a very interesting conversation right now that i fear we in the media sort of don't get to as much as we should, as fully as we should. >> hello. i'm a librarian, a public librarian, in prince george's county. i have been for 20 years. and as an aside, if i had to describe the two of you to say -- you're both wearing blue so i'd have to say well, gwen is the dark skinned one and michele is the light-skinned one and they both have great training. >> my mother would be so hap

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marc morial, the urban league put out a new report this week about the state of black america which we'llthe screen when we can. there's the report one of the disturbing findings is if you look at unemployment among various groups, whites 7.9%, african-americans at 15.5%. it's actually gone up a little bit. how do you look at this war on joblessness right now? >> the war on joblessness needs to accelerate. it's premature to claim victory. there's the beginning of a recession but it's just seedlings beginning to sprout. we've had four months of job growth. 150,000 jobs per month. the worst thing we could do now is take on budget cuts that would cost us more jobs and predictions are that hr-1, the ryan budget, would cost us 700,000 more jobs. we have to recognize that the reform of the economy and rebuilding of jobs is not going to happen without continuing policy intervention. here's the thing. with almost 16% unemployment in the african-american community, that translates to broad unemployment in urban communities across the nation. i think that until we can find a way to target and bring

it's certainly overcrowded and overdone now, but it was the classic avenue of black america for over a century and i want to read a whole passage from the book that has to do with the march king and led. it started off well, but things turned right. it became clear that the march was taken over by the young radicals who had different ideas about non-violence, who had different ideas about which way the civil rights movement should go, and because of that, because of the violence that breaks out in the looting and rioting and the police sort of crack down on it, because of that, king realizes he's got to come back to memphis yet again to try to sort of reading in himself and his reputation and to prove to the nation he can lead a non-violent march. what this is march 28th, about a week or so before the assassination, and he and his inner circle, abernathy leads in the local minister named lawson are marching down the street, and things are starting to go awry. the march began, king, abernathy, lee and paulson locked arms in the front and began walking as the police helicopters were ov

so it's not have a look at the status of blacks in america but i ask if we've really reached equality or the prison system has become the new form of slavery now first try to improve the u.s. image in the muslim world the international islamic forum began today here in washington can the west really improve their image while waging three wars in muslim countries i cannot. let's not forget that we had an apartheid. i think. either one well. we never got the look as the safe get ready because the freedom. they charged here broadcasting live from washington d.c. coming up today on the big picture. new web site with twenty four seven live streaming news times what to do about the ongoing financial hardship unlimited free high quality videos for download. and stories you never. aren't. you guys welcome michel and tell me alone a show we part of our guests have to say on the topic now i want to hear audio just go on to you tube does video response or twitter respond to the questions that we post on you tube every monday and on thursday to show your responses. the first time in the eight yea

at that point, i was fundamentally shaken by the position of being a young black man in america and really had a lot of unanswered questions about where i fit in the world and where the future help to me. then i went to grad school and o. j. simpson was on trial. that is what really gave me the start to focus on the history. tavis: my advancing in the world of the medications is so connected to those two very things. i live in los angeles, so the beating of rodney king opened up all opportunities for me to become a commentator. the o. j. simpson case allowed that to burgeon. what strikes me about your answer specifically with regard to run the king, i am trying to figure out what the connect is with you and rodney king. you are an academic. rodney is writing down the street in a hyundai. your world are very different experiences you tell me that you are now connected with rodney king. >> i was not always an academic. i grew up on the south side of chicago, a largely segregated community. it was a working class family and i was deeply rooted in a family that carried about the least of these

ongoing scientists greats but will america be able to move past it joining me to discuss it is jim hansen retired special operations master sergeant and military blogger for black i've got nat and kevin zeese co-founder of voters for peace and executive director of come home america gentlemen i want to thank you both for joining me tonight now jim i'm going to start with you because i think there are some really embarrassing revelations here some things that make our intelligence just look amateur just full of shoddy look completely and humane but do you still think that get more was worth it even with these details that come out oh absolutely i think if anything the recent treasure trove of revelations from wiki leaks proves that the people we had in gitmo were considered a danger the vast majority of them were high risk and if you look at the people we've released look at the large numbers hundreds and hundreds that we released the recidivism rate is outrageous it's thirty percent plus are in the back on the battlefield or living in yemen leading al qaeda in the arabian peninsula and fighting us in afghanistan and iraq so i mean even the ones we let go are ba

wager that there is no debate to me that this is a wrong and that this is a horrible you know black mark on america's record when it comes to the way we conduct our foreign policy the way that we fight our wars i think it should make a lot of americans question you know what the rule of law and what justice really means in this country to this day but jan i guess there are people like you that still think that it's worth it i think you're crazy for joining me tonight. now don't go anywhere we still have a lot more to talk about on tonight's show a massive jailbreak in afghanistan allowed nearly five hundred for as a nurse mostly taliban to escape the ring the details on how the milton strolled off and we'll speak with a contractor tim lynch got how this major moment is being discussed on the ground when kron burning pastor terry jones took his mission in dearborn michigan over the weekend archies christine was there and will bring us all the details on what did and what just happened. and we are right. and. we will be. safe. because the freedom. hi guys welcome michelle intel on the ellen show part o

costs not discuss what america's black hole is beating the dollar into submission thanks for watching. can you. think. chloe and welcome across town peter little on the brink of bankruptcy time is running out for the american budget deficits failure to raise the debt ceiling could have catastrophic consequences not only for the u.s. but for the entire world how can piling on more debt begin to solve america's fiscal woes. can. start. to discuss america's out of control debt situation i'm joined by martin henican hong kong he's an associate director at the tight group in cambridge we have jeffrey frankel he's a professor of capital formation and growth at the harvard kennedy school and in new york we cross to joe weisenthal he is the deputy editor at the business insider all right gentlemen this is cross talk that means you can jump in anytime you want but first let's have a quick look at america's debt mess. telling broke i'm going for broke wanting stuff that hastert the l.s.o. fourteen point three trillion dollar debt is lifted by i need me on the line the course of the u.s. is on a

still have these institutions in 0 way of relating to reace that ties back to the history of america, the black-white conversation. do you think that is outmoded? >> i am not think it is outmoded. why did these institutions come into play? you feel that organized or mainstream institutions are not addressing your needs, so you want to sort of be part of that discourse. you want to be part of the. >> i am not sure i agree. it is like what was talked about in the center spot. hispanics say the blacks of the naacp. so we'll have la raza. >> at some point, which would be way too long for the panel, i can tell you the history of how the hispanic federation came to be. i can say it's simply. it was because united way of new york city existed and hispanic organizations were going there and saying, hey, we would like to be funded. we would like to be considered for some of your programs, and i love united way and they helped found us, they found us because they felt there was a place and a role for organizations that represented at the agricultural groups. and what concerns me sometimes is that when yo

pursuing a race neutral policy and i called earlier and talked about making things better for black america and all of america. the reason i can say that is i have lived in the north and south and i know for a fact that the south did not have the wealth that it had until black people had their freedom. host: appreciate the call. "atlanta journal-constitution" the bigger budget battles to come is the front page story. the "houston chronicle" the next brawl is the debt ceiling front page of "new york times" also and why celebrate our kick the can congress funding government one week at a time is a massive failure. what are we, zimbabwe? you can log on to twitter.com/cspanwj and journal at c-span org. caller: i was a third generation republican but quite frankly there is not a republican party any more. they have no belief in the future of the country when they are taking money away from health and from education. they are talking we will save money for this generation to come. we don't educate the generations to come, we are a dead country. the sooner the people realize that the better off we

being black in america, coming out of what some see as the suspect world of chicago politics, potentially getting stuck in springfield as a legislator. >> you are insulting everyone in this room. [laughter] [applause] >> i have some friends in the u.s. attorney's office. they will back me up. he has navigated his way are around a lot a potential land mines. for defining issue, afghanistan, iraq, libya -- is for the one trap that he cannot ultimately avoid? -- is war but one trap that he cannot ultimately avoid grissom margin you are asked me to put in a politically -- they cannot ultimately avoid? >> you are asking me to put into a political context which is not. most americans are wary of war. it has been costly in terms of lives and treasure. and yet they also feel strongly that we need to do what we can to protect our own security, and the president needs to balance these things. he ran for office to end the war in iraq. by the end of this year, we will have our troops home. we about 100,000 home already. in afghanistan, there was no strategy that we had to be more aggressive and deal

huge family dysfunction, and particularly with his dad, being black in america, coming out of the what some would see as the ethically suspect world of chicago politics, -- >> you better come to that question because you are insulting everybody in this room. [laughter] [applause] i have some friends in the u.s. attorney's office. they will back me up. >> he has navigated his way around a lot of potential land mines. afghanistan, iraq, libya -- is war potentially though one trap he cannot ultimately avoid? >> you are asking me to put in a political context what fundamentally is a larger question about the president of the united states. i think most americans are weary of war. it has been costly in terms of life and treasurer. and yet they also feel strongly they need to do what we can to protect our own security and the president needs to balance these things. he ran for office promising to end the war in iraq. by the end of the year, we will have our troops home. we have 100,000 home already. he ran saying there was no strategy in afghanistan, that we had to be more aggressive dealing

another black eye for america's pastime. this time a coach is apologizing after he berates fans at at&t park with homophobic and threatening remarks. ktvu's amber lee is live where fans tell her people need to clean up their act. amber? >> reporter: ken, we are at american bull sports fan where giants fans had strong reactions to what happened over the weekend. on this wednesday night there were plenty of fans watching the giants on the road. but they also enjoy being at the ballpark and spending time with family. >> we are there to enjoy the game and have, like, a really fun atmosphere. are. >> reporter: but on saturday at at&t park the fans pitching coach roger mcdowel responded to heckling with homophobic remarks and a crude gesture. he told the 50-year-old mcdowel to watch his language around the children. >> he proceeded to turn and say what you have been told which is kids don't belong fing out at the ballpark. at that point, he turned completely towards me and grabbed his bat and picked it up and asked me how much my

another black eye for america's pastime. this time a coach is apologizing after he berates fans at at&t park with homophobic and threatening remarks. ktvu's amber lee is live where fans tell her people need to clean up their act. amber? >> reporter: ken, we are at american bull sports fan where giants fans had strong reactions to what happened over the weekend. on this wednesday night there were plenty of fans watching the giants on the road. but they also enjoy being at the ballpark and spending time with family. >> we are there to enjoy the game and have, like, a really fun atmosphere. are. >> reporter: but on saturday at at&t park the fans pitching coach roger mcdowel responded to heckling with homophobic remarks and a crude gesture. he told the 50-year-old mcdowel to watch his language around the children. >> he proceeded to turn and say what you have been told which is kids don't belong fing out at the ballpark. at that point, he turned completely towards me and grabbed his bat and picked it up and asked me how much my

hour from now in the meantime peter novell's cross-talk guest discuss not discuss whether america's economic black hole is reaching that goal or into submission that debate is next stay with us for that. for the full story we've got. the biggest issues get a human voice face to face with the news makers. and. we can welcome across the computor a little on the brink of bankruptcy time is running out for the american budget deficit failure to raise the debt ceiling could have catastrophic consequences not only for the u.s. but for the entire world how can piling on more debt to begin to solve america's fiscal woes. can. start. to scots america's out of control debt situation i'm joined by martin henniker in hong kong he's an associate director at the tight group in cambridge we have jeffrey frankel he's a professor of capital formation and growth at the harvard kennedy school and in new york we cross to joe weisenthal he is the deputy editor at the business insider all right gentlemen this is crosstalk that means you can jump in anytime you want but first let's have a quick look at america's debt me

black america did. that's part of what it is to learn.in your own truth with courage, conviction and commitment and know over time it will catch up with you. >> you were called a traitor, a sell-out. >> i was called everything. and president obama is the best example of failing up in this country. he ought to be the poster child. when he ran for the house seat bobby rush beat him three to one. he ran for the senate. his opponents started falling off like flies. in 2000 he can't get into the senate building for the democratic convention in l.a. and in 2008 he's president of the united states. if that ain't failing up, i don't know what is. >> what do you think his greatest failure has been so far? >> he's got a full plate. but i think he's got to be held accountable to different standards. i think he's wrong on the wars. he's giving too much attention to the rich and the lucky, not enough to the poor. not enough focus on jobs. again, he has a lot on his plate but are you going to side with the weak or the strong? we have to focus more atte

black experience? you do not want to be a minority in america. want to be on par with people, you do not see herself locked into the old dynamic. >> we actually see ourselves as a community had that can help america build itself. >> but are you separate from that history? >> well, right now we feel like a minority. we feel like, for the first time on a my life, i can sympathize with communities that have gone through difficult challenges. and the challenge of acceptance. it is something i have personally experienced last year. it is the first time i actually realized what he theories of on acceptance. i think most muslims have experienced. we thought we were a thriving community, we work and treating. >> a do you see that as the equivalent of the black experience? >> of course it is. it is the same as at the catholic experience, the jewish experience. it is one of acceptance. we want to be treated as equals, no newcomers. >> you see it fitting into the framework of civil-rights in america. >> first of all, i want to make sure i did not miss a bea

america. the dow jones up, rob black. what do find interesting about the stock market?t better. with jobless claims early out reporting out this morning. we can expect a jump back up. this economic data is not necessarily smooth. perhaps wall street is saying is that we have a lot of getting a little bit worried about japan. >>catherine: ... >> jacqueline: >>rob: that one-two punch of the jobless numbers and the investigation towards goldman sachs' investigation is creating uncertainty but there is recovery. also when talking about the stock market it was not taking its cues from earnings. so far, j.p. morgan and local real those numbers were a bit better than expected. -- wachovia = 1 their hiring people they're not quite as efficient. when they are hiring people. >>catherine: the blackberry is challenging the iphone the sound of spring... it's a symphony best appreciated... at full blast. the moment you've been waiting for has arrived. springs best event. from cadillac. with zero down, zero due and zero first month's payment on the exhilarating cadillac cts. but like

being black in america. coming out of chicago politics. potentially getting stuck in springfield as a legislator. >> you better ask a question, because you are like consulting everybody in this room. -- insulting everybody in this room. [laughter] [applause] he has navigated his way around a lot of potential landlines. my question is afghanistan, iraq, libya -- is war the one potential trap he cannot even avoid? >> you are asked me to put in a political context what is up fundamentally larger question. i think most americans are wary of war. it has been costly in terms of lives and treasure. and yet they also feel strongly that we need to do what we can to protect our own security. and the president needs to balance these things. he ran for office promising to end the war in iraq. by the end of the year we will have our troops home. he ran saying that afghanistan, there is no strategy in afghanistan, that we had to do more aggressive things in dealing with al qaeda central. and he has done that. he did it promising that we would surge up a

black experience? you do not want to be a minority in america. want to be on par with people, you do not see herself locked into the old dynamic. >> we actually see ourselves as a community had that can help america build itself. >> but are you separate from that history? >> well, right now we feel like a minority. we feel like, for the first time on a my life, i can sympathize with communities that have gone through difficult challenges. and the challenge of acceptance. it is something i have personally experienced last year. it is the first time i actually realized what he theories of on acceptance. i think most muslims have experienced. we thought we were a thriving counity, we work and treating. >> a do you see that as the equivalent of the black experience? >> of course it is. it is the same as at the catholic experience, the jewish experience. it is one of acceptance. we wt to be treated as equals, no newcomers. >> yo see it fitting into the framework of civil-rights in america. >> first of all, i want to make sure i did not miss a beat. i

the united states in this a book called "country of strangers: plaques and whites in -- blacks and whites this america. " and then another titled, "the working poor." and those books literally won a pile of awards. the pulitzer prize included. his work has been outstanding on every level, and now he's turned to the issue of civil rights and civil liberties and the consequences for them during this, what's been called the war on terror. mr. graff's career has been defining the trajectory of journalism in the 21st century. he's the editor of the washingtonian magazine and served as the deputy national press secretary on howard dean's campaign. he was howard dean's webmaster when dean was first mastering the ways to make the web useful in forming a political campaign and movement. he's written about that experience in a book titled, " the -- >> you know the title. >> "the first campaign." >> that's it. [laughter] "the first campaign." and now he's written about the experience of the fbi, war in the age of global terror, a book called "the threat matrix." these two books actually mention some of the same

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huge family dysfunction, and particularly with his dad, being black in america, coming out of the what some would see as the ethically suspect world of chicago politics, -- >> you better come to that question because you are insulting everybody in this room. [laughter] [applause] i have some friends in the u.s. attorney's office. they will back me up. >> he has navigated his way around a lot of potential land mines. afghanistan, iraq, libya -- is war potentially though one trap he cannot ultimately avoid? >> you are asking me to put in a political context what fundamentally is a larger question about the president of the united states. i think most americans are weary of war. it has been costly in terms of life and treasurer. and yet they also feel strongly they need to do what we can to protect our own security and the president needs to balance these things. he ran for office promising to end the war in iraq. by the end of the year, we will have our troops home. we have 100,000 home already. he ran saying there was no strategy in afghanistan, that we had to be more aggressive dealing

i just came from speaking to fellman college, women who are ready to go out and serve america, historically black college, and they realize that their education is a gift. but they want to give back to america. but this ridiculous $61 billion in cuts, want to make sure we don't have the american dream. as a member of the homeland security committee, i sit and listen to those fighting the drug cartels on the bothereder but $400 million will be cut out of the homeland security funding so that it immacts i.c.e. agents, it impacts border patrol agents, it impacts intelligence gathering. these kinds of nonpractical ways are undermining americans and america's dream. 700,000 is just the beginning. it's the floor, it's not the limit. to those that seek a single tunnel view of how we run this country ---time the gentlewoman's time has expired. ms. jackson lee: this is the wrong direction. sit down at the bargaining table. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlewoman's time has expired. ms. jackson lee: stop putting your ideas on the backs of americans who need to be able to have the american dream. i yield b

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america. you know? he said because look at the prison system today, 60% of the prison is black.hy don't you think that more people of color could be ronded up, put in holding cells, then the prisons, and then, in fact, eliminated? who would have posed the united states? the united states already opted out of the geneva convention and got out of the world court. who would have posed the united states? that was wop of the tragedies -- one of the tragedies that we need to address. >> host: wait, this is what malcolm said back in the early 60s? >> guest: back in the early 60 coming into fruition today. >> host: why are you saying that? nobody says they should kill the people in prison like the holocaust? >> guest: no, no, it's true. nobody's saying that, but one day they will say what should we do with this undeveloped mass black humanity who live in the ghettos, who live in the cities who are the consumers of everything and the producers of nothing? what are we going to do with these people? down in new orleans after katrina took place, one of the generals down there said that we'r

turbulent years in america when all the major cities in the country were on fire, when africans in america or black people as it came across standing up against the institutionalized patrons demanding equal justice, equals opportunity, equal voting rights, equal jobs, equal housing and equal respect. that was the society that i grew up with at that time. .. s. >> and as he was walking up to this bar and grill, he said the saw me and john ardis coming around the corner, laughing, me carrying the shot gun, and john are ardis carrying the pistol. this was a little fat boy. he was about 5'7". >> host: that was the basis of the conviction. >> guest: that was the basis of the whole conviction, and the reason why that all-white jury said, that can't be so. i mean -- >> host: obviously they convicted you. tell me about it being overturned. >> guest: awe. well, it was overturned because of the very same thing. the new jersey state supreme court heard where the police promised these convicts $10,000 to spout their lies in court, as well as not convicting them for robbing the dead bodies in this ball, as well

been kidnapped and brought enslaved to the new world, to the united states, to america, to new york and they didn't become black americans are african-americans overnight, but with process of struggle and are trying to forge identity. and that's a schooling was all about. so to pass on that circle number one. to pass on circle number two is the black community is alpha called the institutions, literary society, political society and so forth. i'm not going to spend much time talking about these. i will say they are mainly male organization. women are not members. they're definitely not officers. they are invited as companions to a top like now, but they would never be a member of the greenwich village society for historic preservation, but they could accompany their spouse to it. and that was an incredible research problem for me, which i could talk about later. the other thing -- so that basically is the black community and i'm going to pass on. the education schools were one and churches the other in my family's church was saint philip's episcopal church down here in lower manhattan and is now up in harlem. s

black hills. in honor of four of america's favorite and influential presidents. feet high. the park is 1,278 acres. an iconic destination, great place to bring a family. what a great way to learn about american history. >> best time to visit? >> oh crowd in the summer? we recommend arriving in the winter, beautiful covered in snow or at night, at 9:00 p.m., the park rangers illuminate the faces. a beautiful sentimental moment and a great time to visit. >> if you haven't seen it after 9:00, it's beautiful when they illuminate it. the grand forest. the sequoia trees in california. some of the trees are 26 stories. >> the giant forest is located in sequoia and king's canyon national park south of yosemite. it's home to some of the largest trees, including the largest tree, general sherman tree, 52,000 cubic feet. as i said, there are other trees as tall as 26 stories, wide as an entire city block. you can stay in the park itself. there are four lodges and 14 campgrounds. so a great way to get close to nature. a wonderful summertime destination. absolutely affordable

i really think it's a paradigm for the old america, where the country was in a sort of a black/whitetomy. you had, you know, jfk, you know, martin luther king. you looked for the big, strong leader, and i don't think that paradigm necessarily corresponds to the way latinos are politically structured or the way we see ourselves. >> hinojosa: because we're too diverse? >> no, we're horizontal. we're not vertical. even when you look at latino politics, lots of organizations, lots of leadership... >> hinojosa: but they're always looking for a leader, a voice. i mean, cesar chavez was that. >> in the old paradigm, and i think that's just... that's old, and we're in a new generation now. >> hinojosa: so it's young leaders coming up? >> no, it's just many leaders, many leaders. and you know, when you have 50 million people, you don't have one leader, right? you have an array of leadership. and just to the villaraigosa point, he was up, then he went down, and i think he's on his way back up. you haven't heard the last from mayor villaraigosa. he is on the mend in los angeles. whatever happen

you were raised on this just as i was indicates how integrated black and white culture really was, even in the 1950s and 1960s, though america officially denied it. officially, you remember, we had this white anglo-saxon-derived culture, and so everybody else's culture, particularly black culture, was subterranean, driven underground because it was an embarrassment. you know, it was the relative you couldn't take out to dinner. but through popular culture, through electronic culture, all those barriers started to break down. mtv, of course, is the example for this generation, though mtv took a long time to integrate. i don't know if you remember, but they wouldn't show any black artists. i mean, that's bizarre in the 1970s and 1980s, but they wouldn't show any black artists, and then they started showing michael jackson and then prince, and now you might think of mtv as primitive as postmodernism. i mean, it's so black and sometimes i think it's even borderline racist. c-span: there's another thing that i used to listen to on wlac in nashville on these same programs that you talk about in an indirect way, and that was things

black history. i give a lot of examples. tulsa, okla., i spoke at the university of tulsa. here is a city in the middle of america, 1921, thousands of african-americans were burned out of their homes and several hundred were killed. this racial atrocity was suppressed for over 60 years. in new york city, as they expanded the federal courthouse, down into the bedrock of manhattan island, they discovered 19,000 corpses of african people that had been buried over a century. today's african burial ground. this is a metaphor for the contestation hope that history always is in a racialist society. we were the first stock on the stock exchange. african people go to the wall of wall street. if you go back in time and past,ogate america's african americans are at the heart of the american experience building in part much of the wealth upon which the society has been produced. that is why there is an effort to [unintelligible] tavis: there is this notion that for white folk and black folk, we see the freedom struggle differently. i am fascinated by the fact that freedom has always a collective project. the white guy recogn

he's everything america makes him out to be, young, bright, social responsibility and he has a white mother and a blackfather. he is actually all -- he represents america. and here we are. we're bombarding this poor man like he's responsible for whatever. anyway, my whole feeling is when i look at this and i'm thinking this is a sign for me, that we're no longer that america that i fell in love with 50 years ago. and another thing i wanted to just -- my remark is, you're so full of information and it's wonderful. but basically too much is overriding it so knot one thing can come through. the overriding principle we have to really remember that i remember when the wall came down in '89 in germany in berlin and a professor said to me, it's a tragedy to lose a friend. but it is catastrophic to lose an enemy. >> host: all right. we're going to have to leave it there. professor, we have about 30 seconds to close. any comment for her? >> guest: excuse me, i'm not a prophet. i think, you know, we're at a crucial moment where we could go back to the old ways, you know, where we have people who believe in the w