i would strongly recommend him to the ethics commission. a move that we consider alan grossman for the commission. >> supervisory avalos. supervisor avalos: i want to acknowledge the work done by it current commissioner eileen hansen, as well as joe lynn. with his legislative aides, i had a time working with joe lynn, and he was a valuable resource. what i really admired about joe was his thirst for justice, his thirst for having an ethics commission that was really a strong and how he could really play it a watchdog role and how big money can influence our decision making at city hall as well as our elections in san francisco. i did talk with dorothy liu today, and i was impressed with the work she has done in the community as a lawyer. some once dressed she has a very strong ability to interpret laws -- someone stressed that she had a very strong ability to interpret laws. i also think what is really important is having a vision for what the ethics commission should be about, what the track record has been in terms of getting to the next

the ethics commission is a mess. it has systematically tried to alienated key political natural supporters who want to see open government, by bringing everybody for small amounts of finance. that is not what we want to see. we want to see the ethics commission actually supporting government that is open and honest. that is what we will see these contracts go to the right place. we saw a situation where a waiver was granted for tony hall to go to treasure island. one says political use was exhausted their, the commission decided to hit him with major finds right before he decided to run for mayor here the upshot was he was found to have not committed for what they said he did. perjury went down in those proceedings. yet the district attorney never prosecuted. we do not have a commission that is going to stand up and insist laws be followed, that integrity be respected, that tampering with evidence and perjury not be accepted in those proceedings. i believe mr. grossman comes with those qualifications. ms. liu mention

i looked to the police commission. it looks like hrc has tried unsuccessfully to collect the data. >> the first one was informal and the fall. the other thing was to put the items on the agenda to change the dgo and have input from the community. the joint terrorism task force is a serious issue. we need to give the other commissioners on board to set for a hearing and find out. i cannot tell you the number. i have no idea how many full- time or part-time officers participate in the joint task force. i have not gotten a clear answer about whether 8.0 applies to them or if they are working outside of that. i have not gotten a definitive answer on that. there are a lot of line items that are not detailed. that is the process we have to go through. i am committed to getting back on the agenda and trying to find out the information that we can. we at the department need to know the policy set and that they are complying with the policy. we need to know that they are complying with the state, city statutes and the constitut

commission president mazzucco. >> prefpblet. >> commission vice president marshall. >> present. >> commissioner dejesus. >> present. >> commissioner hammer. >> present. >> commissioner chan. >> present. >> commissioner kingsley. >> present. >> commissioner slauger. >> here. >> commission president you have a quorum. also on the dais, we have dr. joyce hicks, and would wow like to introduce our other guest? >> we have a very special guest tonight. our special guest tonight is our brand new, just sworn in, chief of police, greg suhr. i want to give him a warm welcome. [applause] just by way of background for those of you in the audience, there was a swearing in today, it was an honor to be part of that ceremony. the commissioners were president. we look at you, greg, as the reflection of the work we've put in for the past 100 days, a long, significant 100 days, and it was a very, very thorough process that led to your selection. we had 77 applicants. we interviewed an untold number of candidates. unlike last time, the commission not only interviewed the finalists once, but twice. commissioner cha

i look forward to working with the entertainment commission, the youth commission, and others. my office is always available when these issues come up if you think that the agency is not acting appropriately, or maybe is a little misguided in how they are applying rules. please let me know or let my staff know. we want to be of help and want to work with you to make this the kind of city we all know it can be. thank you very much. commissioner zukerman: thank you. it department representatives want to say anything, now is the time. >> are there any more presentations? >> this is from recreation and park. >> thank you. >> hello, commissioners. i is found out i had to do this three hours ago, so forgive me if i do not know what i am saying. i am facility coordinator representing the recreation and parks department. i have been with them for over 20 years now. i feel for our teenagers, young youth, and young adults. considering all the deficit cuts there have been in our department, in the last six months we have made some big changes following a new model that is based on -- hold

as our commission president has said, we have heard this before the commission before, and i will just reference my comments with the previous item, where i discussed the impact and the extent of the shadow on the park. as i have mentioned, the analysis is based on the fact that this part was shadowed well below 20%, and the additional shadow is that 0.44%, which is permitted as of the last resolution. the additional shadow would be. 044% on the part. and as i have explained before, in the market that has been -- the package that has been prepared for you, this is described in different shadows studies that are included in the packet, i did not know if the overhead is working. as you can see, this illustrates the orange zone, which would be shadowed by the 40-foot structure, and the bright red zone would be shadowed with the additional increment of i. this is actually a total of 45 feet, with the additional roof elements that create the 48-foot structure used to develop the shallow analysis. and you can see in the different images where the extent of the shadow would be happening, over

members of the public can address the commission on matters that are within the jurisdiction of the commissionexcept agenda items. the entire category has a 15 minute time limit. >> is there

there are two core things that the commission has decided. taking a look at the police permits and submitting recommendations to the department, to the director of the office of economic and work force development, koran and this is work that the permit a committee has just started to engage in, and the second item, there is consolidated annual licensing projects that are taking place, in just to review for the commission, i will have a little bit more in my director's report, but these are for streamlining the projects that the department and the commission will be taking part in. and then, the last bullet item, the commission asked staff to create the top four, and we have retail, general, and in retail food. those are probably the top four, which we will have written guidelines for. we are pretty well done for the restaurants, and we're working on others. and then, at the retreat, we ask that staff in for the last goal, representing the interagency projects and task force, and again, the consolidations, the project is one. we will conduct

the police commission is responsible. once i heard that we were responsible and we put these interim rules in place after significant work with others, we would be december of 2008. there is concern. the basic concern is proof of insurance. >> there has to be proved insurance act with in damnation cause for the city. i think we cannot allow people to be operating without insurance. my concern was to find out who submitted insurance. six of the nine the control specialists had issued insurance. that is a third. what do we do? what is the next step? we want to avoid liability for the city. i find out now that we have had 10 patrol specialists failed to comply with information 3 >> we have control specialists have not qualified at the range. how to thank you for giving the numbers that we did not yet clear last week. there were active patrol specials, we know who is an active. we're getting our hands around this problem. what do we do next? how do we handle it this evening when we have potentially three control specialists o

commission meetings. any commission announcements? commissioner hammer: no. president mazzucco: i think we have discussed this at issue so we can look at the perceptions of the community and provide them with facts and a response to the perceptions and allegations. i think we owe it to the communities and the officers assigned to the jttf. we need to have a meeting, not a prolonged meeting about this, but a meeting where we put all the cards on the table that can be put out there. with that in mind, there is talk about having community meetings. we have had a lot of community meetings during the chief's selection process. i have been advised richmond station cannot get it together in time for the filing? >> we had a one-day notice and there was a 15-day retirement. the other people weren't available. >> the day we picked for that? zwr we were looking at april 20. >> my suggestion is that either april 20 or april 27 we have a joint meeting with the human rights commission. >> 27th we have a large disciplin

the entertainment commission may want to continue to have -- i am sure what the commission's intentof this legislation is maintained. we can work with a legislative sponsor to be able to figure out the after 10:00. that might still be in the legislation but i don't necessarily have control over that period what the commission and the core component of what is important is maintaining. >> i can buy that. how do we organize that? the was a possible action item. do we vote on it or not? >> it was listed as a possible action item to provide flexibility if it is necessary. >> lead to open up for public comment and there is no public comment. if there is no other comment, we will move to the next item. >> commissioners, i will run through the directors' report. >> item number 12, directors report for the office of small business and the assistance center for legislative matters and the opportunity to make announcements. >> my apologies for that we're averaging about 3.5%. we'll be tracking that in relationship to the fact that we are now closed one day for walk- in services we will give y

at every commission meeting following the joint conference committee, the commission is able to see what transpired in the committee at the committee level, and they approved the report that is given to the full commission. my intent would be that these would be -- this would be a piece of that report. supervisor campos: if i may, colleagues, to make sure that we close the loop on this, i would like to ask that we continue this to the call of the chair so that in a few months, we can come back to this item to see where things are in terms of the systems that are put in place. i think it is important for us to come back to this item and monitor where things are, so if we could get a motion to continue to the call of the chair. motion by supervisor farrell. if we could take that without objection, and we will come back to this item in the next few months to continue to monitor this issue. thank you again, for all of you, who have come, and thank you again to the controlleer's office for being here. we have any other items before this committee? thank you. the meeting is adjourned. the meet

i appreciate this matter being brought before the commission. i will do our best to try to get these other projects move forward. this is an overall update on the status. president olague: great. do we have a date? >> the earliest would be june 2. president olague: we should schedule it for them. i would like to open up for public comment. >> sue hester. we can kind of fit this in. what i have here is a time line on this project. i have been bugging the department to calendar this forever, for many years. i went to the original allocation hearings. they were really interesting beckon the old days of the '80s. there are consequences of sites being dormant for so long. i had a case on the other side of the street. what you have here is the original application and 84. everyone tries to be the new rules, the downtown plan. they got their allocation. in 1989, after the downtown plan was adopted, after the limits were adopted, and after an seir amendment, it expired. they went to a second round. they took out another permit. this is one of the factor

sometimes we're just kind of the federal merger commission. that's because companies bring us so many mergers. it's always the last one, you know, we're not going to be back. but as soon as you approve one, then somebody else is through the door saying, hey, you let the other guy get real big, so you've got to let us, too, or else it's not fair. >> host: commissioner n2005 how did you vote on the at&t/bell south merger? >> guest: well, we had a lot of negotiation back and forth on the bell south merger and managed to avoid tap some network neutrality conditions and things hike that. it was not -- like that. it was not a happy merger, happy occasion in the final result, but i think we made it better than it would otherwise have been. >> host: and before we get to amy, i just want to read one piece of an editorial, recent editorial this new york times entitled, "looks like a duopoly." this doesn't mean that at&t's proposed purchase of t-mobile should be rejected. >> guest: well, i think there's a lot of merit in there, but the question is, you k

but we are go to have a joint meeting with the commission's approval with the human rights commission the next two or three weeks. i was go to raise that down the road. i want to let you know that we are not violating 8.10 and commander mahone sepresent tonight. he answered that question. we will do a hearing. a lot of this is about perception. we have to feel strongly about perception. the stories he told us are very important and it is ayodele cat balance between public safety and protecting the rights of all of our inhabitants. i understand why there is concern. i worked for the department of justice headed by alberto gonzalez. i can see why there is doubt and concern. but keep in mind the good men and women of this police department follow 8.10 and don't violate the constitution. those that assigned to the task force are the cream of the crop and respect everybody's constitutional rights. i think it is important that the public gets a handle on this tonight that there is nothing to be concerned about and we are going to work with you. >> i don't want to have an extended conversati

commission. we thought it was prudent to at least bring this to you for informational purposes so you can see what is going on and provide a point for public comment. i do have someone here from sf general, should you have any specific questions about the sf general portion of the project itself. other than that, that would be the information we wanted to present to you this morning. >> thank you. >> i do have public comment. >> do you want to go to that? >> ok. >> i represent potrero del sol and when all thbuneneno vista p. he has come to a lot of meetings and he has been very supportive. victor reyes is a well-known artist throughout the country and he is doing this all for us for free. he also has very close ties to the community around the parke. we're looking forward to a big celebration. hope you come out to the park. thank you. president buell: thank you. >> any other public comment? seeing none, public comment is closed. president buell: commissioner bonilla? >> yes, i am looking at all t

commission meetings, and scheduling of future district commission meetings. president mazzucco: commissioner dejesus? commissioner dejesus: we are already at the end of march, and i would personally like to see get a community meeting in each of the 10 districts before the end of the year. we have to get on it and get it scheduled if we decide all of a sudden that is the route we want to go. president mazzucco: we can do that. we generally do not meet in december, so if the meeting is in the last week of the month, which they normally are, the last week of the month, we could plan them out. >> commissioner marshall, the first one we have is january 5, so maybe we can reverse it? so that we can free up this part of december in meet in december? -- and meet in december? vice president marshall: where are we? commissioner hammer: we talked about it two weeks ago. it looks like it has been since july 2008 or august 2008. i think it has been more recently. you are right. february. it was one year ago. vice president marshall: we will take suggestions. commissioner

commission announcements and scheduling of items identified for consideration for future commission meetings. >> we tried to schedule something for the human rights commission and pick a date for that. >> what is our visibility for may 18? >> i'm going to be out of town on business may 4-may 11. i should be back by the 18th. >> how does that sound for the rest of the commissioners? president sparks once said when they have their hearing there is a report full of perceptions. not proof. it would be a perfect opportunity for us to get together and answer questions just like the one we talked about. how does the 18th sound? >> i may be out of town that weekend but i'm a firm believer in not holding the commission hostage to one commissioner's schedule. if i'm there, great, if not, i'm sure i will get a full report from folks. >> thank you. commissioner kingsley? commissioner kingsley: i'm not sure if this is really an agenda item but it seems like the most appropriate time to bring this up. i think as a commission as a whole, we want to give our thanks and recognition to interim chief down and

to me, what a planning department and commission does is to affect change. we are and trimming -- instrument of change. this project is a perfect example. this was envisioned as an airport. probably john stuart, i do not know if he is still in the room, we may have been the only two that were there at the fair. and still remember it. i served my naval air duties at hangar two. they change from the previous period when i had my business, i did at all of my party is at the chapel at the officer's club. now we are considering another change. that is exactly what planning does. it a effectuates change. this is an evolution. this is the way things happen. i do not find it unusual at all that we are contemplating these massive acres of recreation and open space land of a community of up to 8000 units where we complained that we are supposed to come up for san francisco, absorber population. we complain that we have no place to put them. here is a place to put it. and to be able to design, rather than struggle with a little infill here, a little infill there. to de

or from the department that are headed towards the commission to institute under the rule, the commission can work on it for a couple of weeks, is for the department to send out a letter to an officer saying i have initially determined to charge you. here are the charges i'm intending to charge you with. if you would like to meet with me before i do it, you're welcome to do so. at that meeting, the officer could come, face the music, chief suhr could say listen, you might get fired. i think it is a 60 day case or whatever you say. if you were to come to an agreement, the officer, steve johnson has been around enough. i know where this is going. you want to live with this for a year or do it now. they could file that of-day proposal together with the charges and within the first days of the calendar, the chief would be here and say with your permission, i need 60 days. i think a good number of cases very early on could be disposed of very early on. miss porter has come one a draft. i think if we put that piece into place, i think we dramatically cut down the number of cases. >> great, than

the planning commission has been in the trenches with this department on what i consider outstanding standards for what area plans are -- i like to mention eastern neighborhoods, - not very much under your own guidance and i say that with a reasonable degree of confidence. you're missing a chance to really bring this project back to where it belongs. if we're looking and planning a new neighborhood for san francisco, this is your opportunity, and i will later on speak to why the d for d as it stands right now are not really workable for you. thank you. president cheng: commissioner antonini? commissioner antonini: thank you. i'm in favor of the proposals before us and as we know, development agreements in particular move with the project are not with a particular sponsor, particular developer, and if these change, the obligation is still there both for all the public benefits and all the things that we're requiring and this is actually often advantageous because law changes may occur and they may occur that are disadvantageous to the general public but the development agreement takes

>> guest: i think not just the commission but perhaps --. i'm not going to predict what the hell is going to do but if we are talking about incentive auction said options and things like that, does this change, does it change the name of the game for that if you are going to have one less competitor in the wireless market. does that make the incentive auction idea more or less attractive? with regard to public safety and the d block, you think think those are all factors that might have the effect of encouraging some folks to say well, let's see what happens before we go ahead and act. >> host: n.a.b. chair gordon smith was recently on this program and here's what he had to say about the tensile spectrum options and i want to get your reaction to it. what your viewers need to understand is the difference between broadcast spectrum the way we utilize it in the way wireless uses it is when we use it so it is very efficiently is. when you look at the way wifi does it if i send you a video on my iphone, it is made to you. it is one-to-one. it ta

and discuss it with the rest of the health commission. i appreciate excisioner in moore's pointing out the whole question of traffic in that area because very recently, the commission health commission was given a report on pedestrian safety, especially in the tenderloin and in that area. and so we really need to look at this and i would like to bring it back to our commission to further look into some of the issues that were discussed tonight. >> about access to care for poor people. our concern is that every hospital. she does not have a history of provi people at the california pacific and davis campus. the answer here is a development agreement that is very specific and as you saw in the pact that she gave you, there is an example that very specific about the amount of money, overtime, devoted and i would suggest that this commission, planning commission, when you approve the entitlements, you have a specific development agreement that embodies all of our recommendations that we have been working with this hospital on for three years.

for a public hearing so that the commission and the public can advise the planning director on their design. also importantly any project seeking major exceptions from any of the standards or needing conditional use standards, any building that seeks to deviate in a notable way would need to come to the commission for individual discretionary approval action. you did receive an errata package in the past week and the actions before you are on the documents as reflected through incorporation of those errata. if you wish, rich ilis can walk you through the errata. as a housekeeping note as is the case with many other major plans we work at that have many numerous documents and motions before you, staff requests that the commission affirmatively grant staff the authority to correct any typographical or grammatical errors in the motions we may find as we finalize them. with that, the planning department recommends approval of each of these actions. i or other staff would be happy to answer any questions you might have. thank you. >> open it up to general public comment. we have speaker c

members of the public can address the commission on matters that are within the jurisdiction of the commissionexcept agenda items. the entire category has a 15 minute time limit. >> is there any general public comment? >> the project i am working on is at 401 divisadero. i hope to come with you -- i hope to come before you with a project that you will be excited about. i might realistically need to make changes to that project. i think the most important part is that decisions are made based on facts, not conjecture. that is why i wanted to make sure the record reflects what we believe are the facts regarding some of the statements last week. the two things i would like to speak on, one was that there were claims made and the square footage exceeds. this is the simplest thing to speak to. this just cannot happen. we are a huge company and we are so rigorous in the hiring of our consultants, it takes six months to get a consultant approved because our of our security concerns. this would risk losing their license if they were misrepresenting something. in this case, the building we are looking