. >> i reject the choices that mr. ayton and others are presenting say we have to choose between those in uniform or health care and between employers and employees. we have balanced policies to move forward together. that is what canada is emerging from the global recession faster and stronger than others. we have a balanced approach that makes investments in people when we can afford it and keeping taxes low. >> the question asked was how much a plane costs. use of $78 million. -- you said $78 million. others have said different amounts. can you come with fox and figures to make the population know -- the facts and figures to make the population know what we're going to spend and why? >> we have been clear about the budget numbers for these. the important point to remember is these are 5 to 10 years down the road. why is the opposition making an issue of this now? they need money today to pay for promises the country cannot afford. you cannot pay for promises today by canceling an aircraft purchase five or 10 years from no