are you a better judge with regard to your clerks because you had been a clerk for a judge like blackmun or think so, i think so. >> right. >> i mean, it certainly, they, they haveeremained models for me, each in theirú own way my entire career. >> yeahh tell me about that. explain what you learned from blackmun and explained what you learned from goldberg. >> well, maybe onn of thh most important things i learned ffom justice blackmun is that despite what i said earlier, you know, the supreme court is out there, they're looking for the most important, the most momentous cases. justice blackmun never forgot that in the end every case is about the people who were involved in thattcase. you know,,the issue could be fancy. the issue could be whatever but at the end of the day it's for those people. and he was very insistent about that, and of course it's true. i mean, you don't want to sit there and say that you're engaged in some academii exercise if in fact you rule one way and somebody dies. or you rule one day and, and somebody loses their job or they can't gettemployment based on some cha

or less from the constitutional ether. end of quote. edward lazarus, a former law clerk to justice blackmun wrote quote as a matter of constitutional interpretation is the most liberal jurisprudence, if you administer truth serum, will tell you it is basically indefensible there and you know, we could go on and on, but my question to you is this, do you still believe that roe and its progeny demonstrate what you termed constitutional fidelity? >> senator, it has been reaffirmed as recently as i believe 1992 and the casey opinion by the court, as the president of the court is and how to respect of the precedents of the supreme court aren't have to. in the case of the intermediate appellate judge, if i were fortunate enough to be confirmed, that means that roe is a compelling case under the caselaw so i would have to apply it safely if i were confirmed. >> and so you're saying it demonstrates what you have turned constitutional fidelity? >> senator, the supreme court has said it is an appropriate decision under the united states constitution as an intermediate appellate judge, i'm obligated t