do you own liberty media or barnes & noble? >> i don't, and i won't own it now. >> joining me is director of research at the yankee >> suzanne: today's deal comes as e-readers and tablet p.c.'s like the ipad are shifting the media landscape. joining me now for a look at growing business of e-books is carl howe, director of research at the yankee group. carl, welcome to the program. >> it's a pressure to be with you. >> you were probably listening to the interview before us, talking about how big a business the business of e-books is. what are we talking about? how big is it? >> the business of books is actually a much bigger business than people think. just this year, we're look at about $1.4 billion worth of sales in e-books. and we see that growing to about $3billion in the next two years. so if barnes & noble were to get a small piece of that, about a third, they could actually make back in revenue what's being spent on it today. >> of course $600 million question here is do we think that e-books are going to ultimately repl

[applause] liberty should be our cause. i believe all political activity is for the promotion of liberty. liberty and freedom is not perfect, but it will do more good than all the government intervention in the world. terms are thrown around, a conservative, libertarian, liberal. i like the word intervention. i did not to like -- i do not like to have a government that is an intervener. [applause] in many ways, i believe a good president woodwork and the direction of saying that, i want to do less, but i want to firmly an courageously stand up to those who want to do more. they use an authoritarian approach and when they do, everything that they do undermines your personal liberty. it undermines everything that was good and great about america. we were never a perfect nation, and we do not have a perfect document, but we were the most prosperous ever and there is still a lot of spirit left in this country. our group is saying, we have had enough. we want our freedom back. [applause] the reason i worked so hard for personal

what does my life look like if i choose liberty, real liberty? how could i possibly convince my spouse or my friends that this is the right choice? these are the same questions every great movement has struggled with. every time. the answers have to be found by each of us as an individual. and then deeply rooted and planted here. by people who have searched their hearts and then joined their hands. these answers are not going to come from washington. i mean, have you heard their choice already? it's one. if you believe their answer is no, no no,, liberty. really? have they taught you or talked to you or preached about preparedness and self-reliance? how can you have liberty if they don't say prepare to you? have they talked about those things or have they just been part of the nominal spending cuts, the birth certificate circus and regulation. who is standing there to slash the vines growing around the legs and the throats of the average person that built this country? political 9.12 and tea party groups. you have played a historic role and you w

i talk about liberty and freedom.he interpretation -- and it is correct that i do want people to make choices. so in my less than 30 seconds left to make my point, i said, all right. if it would happen to become legal, how many of you would all of a sudden be using heroin? you'd all become heroin addicts. no, people make decisions and they make good decisions for the most part. what i don't like is when the government makes the decisions and it violates the principles of liberty. it's a blanket decision. it affects us in everything that we do to the point where you don't even know if you're allowed to drink the milk that you can buy from your neighbor farmer. [applause] >> so when they challenge you and say that -- and want to paint a negative picture, stick to your guns. defend liberty. defend the free choices. defend our constitution. defend states rights, regulations if they are necessary, and they are. there are a few regulation ns this state in alcohol. it is different in different states, but at least there are

extreme i know or if you're someone who believes in absolute personal liberty but no economic liberty you're an extreme liberal of course there aren't any real people i think that completely fill those corners perfectly but the more important thing to remember here is what this demonstrates is that this axis here is much more important because here for people that believe in personal liberty and economic liberty you know like from the declaration of independence and the rights that were supposed to be protected in the constitution and so on like that we have libertarians at the top and so what you can do then is a race this and break this down and see groups and you have in the middle your moderates you have in the right your sort of general body of conservatives. down here your status totalitarians people who want the government to take away your personal freedom and your economic freedom then you have your liberals or leftists over here that want more personal freedom and economic freedom and then you have people that want freedom more understand that they're really inseparable righ

rick i to really go i never said liberty i said liberalism i didn't say liberty i said it's the. asian we already have it right now we've got to leave the point still holds i mean hillary was a weenie we're not liberals ok rick i want to go to you i mean we don't hear today we use the term west all the time you know and i use it all the time i'll be honest with you but we don't hear the word we don't say east we don't people don't use it is it's polar opposite. well in philosophy we talk often about eastern philosophy and i'm reminded of the young in a satirical magazine we have here in the united states that had a headline that went something like chinese student discovers western philosophy and his parents were horrified that he was into these radical western ideas. but i want to pick up on something that homie said earlier that i think there is a certain experience of the west from the outside that we who are so-called westerners can't ignore that is when for example the last is. protecting the airspace over libya there is an experience on the ground that there is this entity

the idea of liberty is fine until my security is threatened and then the west is no longer about liberty anymore we're now about something else we're about the future we're about security securing the future and so i mean part of the beauty and danger of the concept of the west is it's very mentally ability that it adapts and changes. and it's hard to get a hold of and yet sandy or bill or willie in. in any other call center this is their aspiration and i think we cannot reject that as as somehow an worthy hope for them when you think about that bill i mean your abs. you want to not rejecting it is an unworthy hope i mean certainly if people want to live more like the way i live that's fine i mean obviously if everybody in any in china lives the way i live we're going to exceed the carrying capacity of the earth but that's a whole nother problem. i just don't think it will turn the west as popular as it is is a very useful it's a very useful intellectual or analytic category certainly yes people do talk about it and insofar as they talk about it it's a real thing because it was a real th

it's all about liberty.nd that's what makes us different from other country. >> juan, do you want to get in on this? i would like to then move the conversation, as it's already moving on its own, leaving teddy roosevelt behind, to begin to talk abo what we ourselves think americanism is today, no longer the day of the frontier. please. >> i think it's important to say that i think the context in which roosevelt wrote this was a surge in terms of immigration, and that he was not speaking specifically to the family, he was speaking to the idea that people would become locked into localities or regional tastes and attitudes especially in the aftermath of the civil war, but the key, i suspect, was the surge in terms of immigration and in picking up on something that amy said earlier, this is really why this document matters so much to us tod. today you have a situation in which the dommographers especially after the 2010 census no longer speak of the great american melting pot but talk about the great american m

the liberty of the press was her stained -- restrained by the very men who had been to lilling for liberty. those printers who are inclined to support government were threatened, their presses destroyed and all this uproar arose from the selfish designs of the merchants, mocked patriots who disguise their private views biden mouthing it for liberty. but who were willing to sacrifice everything for money. the turmoil of the colonial tea party movement strips tens of tauzin's of americans of their dignity, their homes, their properties and their birthrights in the name of liberty and independence. nearly 100,000 americans left the land of their forefathers forever in what was history's largest exit of american from america, and untold thousands who refuse to leave their native lands westward into the dangerous wilderness to start life anew under new identities. among those forced to flee to england and be buried in foreign soil was the last royal governor of massachusetts, thomas hutchinson whose forebears arrived in america in 1634 and included the great religious leader, ann hutchinson. he

had been alluding for liberty.those printers who are inclined to support government were threatened, their presence destroyed in all this uproar arose from the selfish designs of the merchant, mark patriot to disguise to their private use by now the net for liberty, but who were willing to sacrifice everything for money. .. was the last royal governor of massachusetts, thomas hutchinson, whose forebears arrived in america in 1634 and include in the great religious leader and hutchinson. he adored this country. it belonged to him as much as it did to sam adams. more so, he had served this country and its government. sam adams had never done that. before hutchison died, he wrote these words. i am sometimes tempted to forget the ayman american and to turn my views from my native, turn my views towards life in england. but my passion for my native country returns and though i know not how to reason upon at i feel with a fondness to lay my native american soil. justice peter oliver also from an american family pled to e

as has been noted, the liberty hill neighborhood association passed the recommendation that mr. passmore drafted for us. i think that's a very positive

is that wal-mart in all of this what is happening to privacy and individual liberties is the emphasis the respect of those being replaced by fear and more importance paid to the security of the collective society before we get into that first artie's marina portnoy is going to tell us what kind of presidential text messages you can expect to get on your cell phone. the country that created blackberries and gave birth to i phones. has more than three hundred million wireless users and in the name of national security the u.s. government will soon have a direct link to each and every handheld device it's like a piece of this is going it's there for a good reason to hope that we never have to build for it gathered at the scene of the september eleventh terrorist attacks federal in new york city officials join the c.e.o.'s of the four largest wireless carriers to announce the nation's new tech tools and alert system enabling the president and government agencies to blast every american with text messages warning of terror threats weather disasters and kidnappings the cell phone alert syst

. >> i live in the liberty hill district and use valencia on a daily basis. the project sponsor did outreach to the neighborhood association and they presented the project at a general meetings. people were fairly impressed with the outreach and the presentation. the scale of project of an architect and i can speak about scale. and i think it is in keeping with the surroundings and i think that is a good match. and they provide detail and i think it was well thought out. and adequate parking and the units have good quality and we felt that it was a good xachl. i am not speaking for myself, but i -- i am speaking for myself and i know that liberty hill supports it and the consensus was that the project provides an example for what liberty hill neighborhood association and neighbors in general rant to see in the neighborhood to use this as a measuring stick of other projects as well. and this project seems to address a lot of the concerns and issueses and would be a good fit and good addition to the neighborhood. thank you very much. >> my name is john murray.

we dissolve from within when we give up our liberties. we need to stand up and be proud of the fact that in our country it's none of your darn busess what we're reading. it's none of your business where we go to the doctor or the movie or what our magazines r it's nobody's business here in washington what we're doing. if they think it is the business of law enforcement, get a warrant. prove to somebody -- at least have one step that says, that person is doing something suspicious. the thing is that these suspicious activity reports -- 8 million of them have been filed in the last eight years -- the government doesn't have ask about this. it is sort of like they have deputized the banks. the banks have become sort of like police agency. banks are expected to know what is in the bank secrecy afnlgt they are spoac expected to know thousands of pageof regulations. if you don't report everybody, if you don't report these transactions, we'll fine you, put new jail or we'll put you out of business. that is a problem. it is a real problem. that's

. >> i'm former president of liberty hill neighborhood association and we -- this is the first time i have seen the project sponsor. i wish that they had come before us. just wanted to mention that there hasn't been a lot of -- although this seems like a trivial problem, in the neighborhood it's very serious. i just waited a long time to testify to this. we are very beset by scavengers in the neighborhood and i was going to describe that. >> are you in favor or not of the continuance? >> i'm kind of neutral on that. that's what -- we're talking about the continuance. >> yes it is the continuance, you'll have to decide i'm wrust mentioning. >> thank you. is there any additional comment on the continuance matter? seeing none, public comment is closed. commissioners. commissioner antonini? commissioner antonini: maybe i could ask staff -- in regards to this issue that's being raised, i'm a little unfamiliar with the, you know, there's the question of whether or not d.b.i. has reviewed this adequately or not. is it properly before us? and i guess i wanted to know a little bit about the is

we dissolve from within when we give up our liberties. we need to stand up and be proud of the fact that in our country it's none of your darn business what we're reading. it none of your business where we go to t doctor or the movie or what our magazines r it's nobody's business here in washington what we're doing. if they think it is the business of law enforcement, get a warrant. prove to somebody -- at least have one step that says, that person is doing something suspicious. the thing is that these suspicious activity reports -- 8 million of them have been filed in the last eight years -- the gornme doesn't have ask about this. it is sort of like they have deputized the banks. the banks have become sort of ike police agency. the speaker pro tempore: on this vote, the yeas are 250, the nays are 153, the motion is adopted and without objection the motion to reconsider is laid upon the table. pursuant to 2 u.s.c. 1928-a an thed orer of the house of january 5, 2011, the chair announces the speaker's appointment of the following member of

have seen the erosion concerning erosion of civil civil liberties particularly the bill of rights over the last decade or so and this seems to affirm that i think what this case was borne of was discrepancies between certain circuits i think the circuit had a different standard than other circuits did but you point up an interesting point here and so did justice ginsburg the fact that simply moving around inside the house would suggest to police officers that evidence is. destroyed interestingly during the oral arguments in this case justice kennedy asked the solicitor arguing for the government whether smoking marijuana would count as destroying evidence of course because of the earlier supreme court case that actually does not count as destroying evidence but that's an interesting one i wonder what police that are right on the spot would have to say about that but you know i think that you know the greater is an obvious danger here because who knows what the smell of marijuana is to certain police and they could probably expand upon that i think those are powers that could be of use

americans felt more strongly about their privacy and civil liberties and felt government more primary role was to protect the individual rights of law abiding citizens and secondary was catching bad guys and the safety of society collectively he said. i think nine eleven changed people's perspective all the sudden you coldest air of these huge terrorist threats never terrorist everywhere and all that i thought was tell just people who work the sea and they say basically that's true as far as up high the groups like that working in the united states there's not much so but people. probably has the side that we have all the terrorists around the country all these things which as we see says the level that really happened and that's why they got the usa patriot act. live through congress in less than a month. and the law by george bush and that's something that is that seems to continue today you you argue that this point of view these priorities have changed and you could argue that was witnessed with what we saw with overwhelming support by congress of this extension of the provisions

i would say that our idea has to do with liberty. manliness and energy are not anything you need in the united states. all the republican virtues, courage, rule of law, we have in common. what makes this different from all the other republics in the west? we are the only ones, and this is unique in human history, founded on a proposition, founded on a document. our day of independence is the day which it was signed. the storming of the best deal in france -- the storming of the bastile in france was different. this dedication to an idea is that from which everything else president roosevelt was talking about. because we are dedicated to liberty, because we are dedicated to the role locked within a specific, almost sacred document. our president's swear to defend the constitution, not the people, not the state, not the government, not the land. the constitution is an unusual idea. that is what unites us. it revolves around liberty to an extent but i think almost no other country does. if you walk around washington, you will see, which

there's such a danger abroad, we have to give up our freedoms and liberties. we need to stand up and tell our elected representatives and write to our media, you know, we would rather take some risk and be free than to make us totally and completely secure and be serfs and have a huge, huge government. we understand some risk is the oxygen of a republican form of government. it is the oxygen. we have to accept some. we're not foolish about it. but the only way you can end risk in toto is to put everybody in prison which is ridiculous. >> or under surveillance. >> or under surveillance. an option. and the second thing that we have to explain to our leaders, if you refuse to honor your oath which means impeaching people who commit impeachable offenses, we vote you out of office. the process is more important than anything. we need members of congress like at one time they did with president nixon. we will need members who say we will impeach you if you flout a congressional subpoena. we will impeach you if you go to war without authorization from congress. we wi

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like the term suggests the crucial element is liberty and the kind of liberty involved is which i enjoywhen others do not, hold me up or pick me up or kidnap me or intrude on my life. it is negative liberty as they say in political theory rather than positive liberty which is what entitlements are about. libertarianism maintain that-liberty should be the law of the land. all laws legitimate to the extent that they protect people to do as they sit -- see fifth provided they did not aggressive put anyone. this is so ancient that in a discussion between the greek general and pericles recounted in a book called memorabilia there is a dialogue in which he defends this position on law that the only legitimate lot is defensive lot. that is essentially what the libertarians are after. >> host: next call from the hudson valley in new york. you are on with tibor machan. >> caller: you don't remember me but i took one of your classes in the 90s at harvard university. business ethics was the class. i was always troubled how you reconcile your general philosophy and general libertarian views with th

i have documents for liberty hill that codifies hal liberty hill came about and also documents some confusion that occurred last week but i thought -- that i felt frustrated about, regarding trash enclosures. the issue is distorted from being heard by the historic preservation commission because of an issue regarding the portability of the trash enclosures. i have just one sheet, to look at these. and i have 14 or 15 copies of what i am talking about right now, regarding the bpw. the issue falls through the cracks and it is frustrating. last week, staff and planning was saying because the trash in disclosure is portable, it does not go to the historic preservation commission, when in fact by dpw rules, it says the trashing closure has to be pinned down, to be permanently in place. it is frustrating when one department creates loopholes so someone can support the intent of all law. also, i would like to tell you about liberty hill, regarding a number of things to come under the purview of various departments. our community is clean. we do not have litter accumulating. the historic nature of th

of liberty and say that initiating force against someone else is ok then i can just take what i want from you by force i may be better off in the short term which you clearly lose out in the situation as the victim of theft. individual taxation works the same way they come to you and say we're going to give you these services whether you want them or not and then we're going to take however much of your money we can get away with in a free society you have to be convinced that it's in your best interest to give up your property the founders of this country took humanity's greatest elite forwards towards achieving the ideal of a free society with the declaration of independence and the constitution in which they tried to embody these principles today we must have the courage to ask if that experiment was a failure but maybe it doesn't matter because really you are only as free as the people around you have been convinced that your freedom is in their own best interest and it is the republic we know today might not last long enough to see that day but it will come as it is part of the

liberty mutual insurance -- responsibility. what's your policy? a developing story out of libya denied a spokesman for the country's government says i need no air strike took the life of one of muammar gaddafi's sons and three grandchildren. the government spokesman says that muammar gadhafi and his wife were also inside the home at the time but were on harmed. the libyan government is now accusing nato forces of targeting gaddafi, nato is not commenting and there is no independent confirmation of those debts. >> the death tolls surrounding the tornadoes continues to rise, an estimated 337 people have died. emergency crews continue to survey the damage and it was the second deadliest day of tornadoes in u.s. history as twister's richter alabama georgia, tennessee and virginia. >> you have seen the devastation here but the shelters are hardly have anybody in them, it's because their neighbors have opened their homes. >> and his visit to alabama president barack obama was awed by the destruction and walter but survivors are picking at the pieces of

i talk about liberty and freedom.erpretation is correct that i do want people to make choices of. in my less than 30 seconds left to make my point, i said, all right, if it would happen to become legal, how many of you would all the 70 using heroin? people make decisions and they make good decisions before the most part. i do not like when the government makes the decision and it violates the principles of liberty. is a blanket decision and it affects us in everything that we do to the point where you do not even know if you are allowed to drink the milk that you can buy from the farmer. [applause] when they challenge you and say -- and want to paint a negative picture, stick to your guns. defends liberty, defend our constitution, defend state's rights. there are a few regulations in the state on alcohol. is different in different states, but at least there are different states that handle this. the kids in high school today can get a hold of marijuana easier than they can get ahold of alcohol. it is not like you just

on our liberties we're going to beat you or make your life. thank the members flatly deny the charge that they are astroturf the nine given to fight crossfire it's organizations that are essentially corporate fronts it's nonsense that there is no such thing among our our people as astroturfing i'm here with four hundred fifty other people from north carolina and we're all individuals. to find out more about this in the three sleep publicity shy brothers and their company koch industries i turn to a man who's been investigating this for a number of years. from the environmental group grain koch industries is the company nobody's ever heard of it's the second or first largest private company in this country we don't know how much money they make they're primarily a refining company and pipeline company they now have expanded into paper and chemicals acquiring other companies in recent years there worldwide based here in the united states in which talk cancers davies and greenpeace assert that americans for prosperity are essentially just a low b

featured speaker at the new hampshire liberty form campaign for liberty and numerous campus organizations thank you so much for joining us tonight thank you it's great to be here so this new tape fresh for me even this is really fascinating about declaration of war with your analysis and your new and not really new but historical data that you're bringing to bear on this argument what is a proper declaration of war supposed to be but i think the first thing you have to consider is what is the word stick declaration to declare and you know just like victory don't declare victory so that you can when you declare victory once you've already won it's not true i mean in afghanistan at this point isn't isn't anything obama's is going to declare victory and pull out right right michel you know you know you know so you know in if you look at every example in american history where the declaration of war has been used they have used it to declare that the state of war between the two nations already exists and in order for them to be able to do that they have to find some reason for it to exist an

government has become a monster crippling the economy and devouring personal liberties this poster is from a night a night the libertarian party campaign in which david koch ran for vice president the party's political platform is an insight into just how radical his views and those of the free market movement. i saw the evolution of the department of energy the environmental protection agency the food and drug administration and a host of other public health and safety bodies not to mention social security welfare the public school system and of course huge tax cuts across the board but after spending over two million dollars of their own money on the campaign and receiving just one percent of the voyage the strange course deciding that if people wouldn't come to their philosophy they take their philosophy to the people they created and invested in a network of free market groups including the establishment in ninety ninety four of a grassroots group called citizens for a sound economy that was the forerunner to americans for prosperity a number of documents have emerged from the cit

of course is cloak on this message and a kind of moral righteousness you know we really believe in liberty we believe in and create enterprise we hear that all the time when that they simply means crony capitalism but it implies something that most americans will you know feel a surge of positive emotion about right now there is a tacit opposition there tween free enterprise and communism and that's the other technique and that that has to be you know the simple you've also got to have enemies even those that serve a scapegoats and against which you will candle and all of the angry feeling that's there the propaganda war also its side all for them socialism conjures up all this weird will be a long list of them will be met with obama's associated with the bad by the right wing for example he's also associated with muslims you know business and everything was in the start of a black hole so all these things serve for a highly volatile and irrational minority of the american population. in a way that's just kind of classic propaganda and it's no accident that this serves the interest of the

just leave the big government takeover of all the business we care the government takeover of our liberty with doc we're losing the constitution and. we have sat at home and not said anything but not delayed and most going on and finally we have done that the challenge and come to do something and we're not going to stop. the working to. the to the to. the restraint up the founder of. the of. the of. the of socialism has taken over it's got a script on it you know always leaks coming is a cool thing you're saying that we're going to sell solicit. the risk the constitution the bill of rights you must bring. yeah we came out here today for freedom and i think that right this first day he thought you. know how you got out not going to try to place those funds and then you. can take our freedom we're giving. me my freedom. now this time last hammering and now not. god. the things here you eat the way the way the way the way the with how the right thing the you do not move didn't move. the the the mood was moved from the mud out of the lights the the lineup of passionate tape party organizers

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well for sake of liberty for security reporter as well just this month the u.s. supreme court shot the case of an airline accused of providing planes with a controversial extraordinary rendition program products and some. terror suspects allegedly being transferred to secret cia prisons abroad for interrogation and some claim torture him i've been told was a u.s. military attorney washington eric thanks to the program that you've defended detainee's the one time of day before we'll talk about your ongoing it ok for the moment let's just talk about this airline place i've been mentioning first of all how do you outline for us what this case against the airline was. well essentially there have been several attempts to go after of the administration through you know various legal avenues this one is trying to call up the private company is being in the legal operations with the u.s. government and the u.s. government's permanent defense to this is the state secrets but that's and that's again why this case has been chucked out. the core of this is that the ministrat

it's negative liberty as they say in political theory rather than positive liberty which is what entitlements are all about. libertarianism maintains that negative liberty should be the law of the land, that all laws are legitimate to the extent that they protect people to do as they see fit, provided they did not address up on anyone. by the way, this position is so agent that in a discussion between the greek general and pericles, recounted in the book called memorabilia, there's a dialogue in which the general defends his position on law as the only legitimate law, defensive law, no aggressive law. that's essentially what the libertarians are after. >> host: next call from the hudson valley in new york. your own with the tibor machan. >> caller: hi. i'm sure you probably don't remember me but i took one of your classes back in the '90s. business ethics was the class. i enjoyed very much but i was always troubled as how you reconciled your general philosophy, your general libertarian views with the fact that you work at a tech support university for sony district i recall one day he made th

i want to be safe but they gave up their liberties. i think it was a mistake and i think we should have an intelligent and rational discussion over this but i don't think it furthers the debate to accuse someone who has constitutional concerns about the way we are doing things to accuse them of being in favor of putting weapons into the hands of terrorists. i object strongly to this. the leaders said they would compromise. they said one week of debate in february and open amendments. they would be open to amendments, even amendments they disagree with. whenever people feel is appropriate on this bill. that doesn't mean just in amendments that are not emotional or that have nothing to do with guns. they are petrified to vote on issues of guns because they know that a lot of people know that americans favor the second amendment's own guns and want to be protected to the right to own guns and the right to have those records not sifted to by the government. we don't want a government that will allow for direction of the police towards thos

must still course is cloak on this message and a kind of moral righteousness you know we believe in liberty we believe in free enterprise we hear that all the time but i pay sickly names crony capitalism but it implies something that most americans will you know feel a surge of positive emotion about right now there is a tacit opposition there between all free enterprise and communism and that's the other technique that that has to be you still you've also got to have enemies gaming the system the service scapegoats and against that which you have to move your hand over the angry feelings that the propaganda wall sorry for its side. for them socialism conjures up all this you're going to have a long list of all the girl he met obama is associated with that right wing for example he's also says he did it with was limbs in august as if he was not in the sun as a black hole so all these things serve for a highly volatile and irrational already the american population. in a way that's just kind of classic propaganda and it's not an accident if this serves the interest of the health insurance co

i talk about liberty and freedom. the interpretation is correct that i do want people to make choices of. in my less than 30 seconds left to make my point, i said, all right, if it would happen to become legal, how many of you would all the 70 using heroin? people make decisions and they make good decisions before the most part. i do not like when the government makes the decision and it violates the principles of liberty. is a blanket decision and it affects us in everything that we do to the point where you do not even know if you are allowed to drink the milk that you can buy from the farmer. [applause] when they challenge you and say -- and want to paint a negative picture, stick to your guns. defends liberty, defend our constitution, defend state's rights. there are a few regulations in the state on alcohol. is different in different states, but at least there are different states that handle this. the kids in high school today can get a hold of marijuana easier than they can get ahold of alcohol. it is not like

been stopped that event would you be ok with that in the name of feeling better about your civil liberties. you know the bipartisan nine eleven commission fairly conservative group looked into the question of the patriot act and they said they couldn't find any evidence because they did i had ever been used to stop a terrorist attack and they couldn't even imagine how it couldn't and they said if the government wanted to renew the patriot act the burden should be on them to show how they were using it effectively the government has not done so even the conservative nine eleven commission report doesn't think it's necessary to extend it to protect us against terrorists you don't exactly answer my question so would you be ok with that if it was in fact a helping actual security and would be a threat if it was gone would you be ok with that if that made you feel like you had your civil liberties that are your constitutional right as a citizen of this country i definitely would i think the whole comus of our constitutional rights and for their freedoms that are so important to us that yes we t