. >> what i'm saying is that this is really -- it should be treated no differently than mary beth tinker when she wore her black arm band in des moines. there were lots of veterans in that community, lots of children of soldiers who died in vietnam or who were serving in vietnam. they were extremely upset. they were incredibly impacted emotionally by seeing the black arm bands, but we can't take away mary beth's right to wear the arm bands and safe -- same in 166, the freedom -- 1966, the freedom rides demanding equality. it upset people. it's something the government maybe didn't agree with, but their freedom got the message. we can't stomp out those messages as well, and that's really what's at issue here to use the government to stamp out thoughts and beliefs and speech with which the government disagrees. that's a very dangerous game because it's easy to do that when it's the speech you favor, but it opens the door when it comes time when it's your speech that's targeted, and we have to stand up for everybody because if we don't, then your speech is next. >> thank you. we're going to