we were wearing field camps we were just young boys let's have it. on the evening of may eighth marshals you caught and representatives of great britain france and the united states signed the act of germany's unconditional surrender at the headquarters of the soviet fifth army in berlin. giving up on route for common one thousand may we were losing to our hearts content of found a big bottle containing ten liters of rattle why suddenly because there was a deafening noise he seemed libera firing from all sides that he was a german break through them with you when we rushed out we saw fireworks going up in celebration of victory so there you go i don't need to tell you that we finished off that bottle in no time. the berlin operation lasted for sixteen days the soviet troops lost up to two hundred thousand men according to various estimates the soviet army lost from eight and a half to eleven million men between nine hundred forty one and. forty five. including a total of twenty seven million soviet people. say and great britain. thousand people. was

but obviously there were some fire fights that were going on as these guys were making their way up the staircase in that compound. when they got up there, there were some threatening moves that were made that clearly represented a clear threat to our guys. that's the reason they fired. >> lehrer: they had orders to fire? in other words, it was fine with the united states government if they went ahead and shot this guy, right? >> the authority here was to kill bin laden. obviously under the rules of engagement if he in fact had thrown up his hands and surrendered and didn't appear to be representing any kind of threat then they were to capture them. they had full authority to kill him. >> lehrer: as far as you know there was no communication, verbal communication, between osama bin laden and the american seals? >> jim, not that i'm aware of. obviously we're still getting the feedback from the seals themselves as to just exactly, you know, what took plac during that mission. but as far as i know, there was no communication. >> lehrer: what was the size of the american commando team? how

there were german troops in what appeared to be three hospital trains. they were right here. and they were marked as hospital trains but in fact they were not but are the germans had weapons with them. they were not going to surrender even though the war was over. they wanted to get to the americans at any cost they were scared of fresh troops and. soviet troops entered praga made the mines today's progs still dotted with small memorial markers like this hand raised to given of the inscription says we will stay committed they signify the resistance fighters died here. cemetery it's here that red army soldiers have died liberating praga buried. the body now hello. i see you've laid flowers on this green. well. i first came here a long time ago a young girl out here i don't even know if her relatives know that she lies here there was something that was a flower in her grave and the she was about twenty two years old i think. such a long way from home. and many of those who lie here live just long enough to hear the word victory possum on their ranks and even had a brief chance

they were there to help out when they were called upon.one of those ships had 30,000 rifles to give to any cubans who would want to join in the invasion. there were tanks on those ships, trucks on those ships, they were set just waiting for the word go to bring the equipment in and help the brigade out. yes? i mentioned you. >> good enough. i have a question. the decision that john f. kennedy made at the bay of pigs, do you think resulted in his assassination or played a part in that decision? >> i think probably lee harvey oswald's mind this. there was a question of whether lyndon johnson ordered it. castro knew that kennedy wanted to kill him, so he killed kennedy. there was a lot of speculation that castro nay have -- castro may have ordered it himself. he denies it. we know he visited the cuban embassy and got some sort of signal or communication there. we know for sure, oswald was in the soviet union when the bay of pigs happen and was infour -- infuriated by it. he thought he was doing fidel castro a favor by going after john kennedy

we were happy to know that we were the victors provided. the first link up of american and soviet troops could have taken place much earlier had the british and americans opened for a second front not in one thousand nine hundred four but when they first agreed back in nine hundred forty two. talks on the establishment of an anti hitler coalition began on june twenty seventh one thousand nine hundred forty one a year later the soviet union the united states and great britain signed a declaration on the opening of the second front in europe. but nine hundred forty two thousand nine hundred forty three passed with no second front to relieve pressure on the soviet union in the east. plans to open a second front were made. but churchill and roosevelt agree that it would be launched only when it became clear that the russians were caving into thank you all on the contrary they were gaming up the happened by crossing the nine hundred thirty nine borders and entering europe but. the long delay in the british and american response had a significant

they were afraid of us they thought russians were constant acts and with a long mustache they were looking us all over thinking where the russians mustaches were your first hand they wanted to know we were wearing field camps we were just young boys. on the evening of may eighth the marshals you called and representatives of great britain france and the united states signed the act of germany's unconditional surrender at the headquarters of the soviet fifth army in berlin. at the root cause on the ninth of may we were losing to our heart's content have found a big bottle containing ten liters of apple while suddenly it is there was a deafening noise he could hear that. they were firing from all sides that he was a german breakthrough moment when we rushed out we saw fireworks going up in celebration of victory so there you go i don't need to tell you that we finished off that bottle is old tosh that i am. the berlin operation lasted for sixteen days the soviet troops lost up to two hundred thousand men according to various estimates the soviet army lost from eight and a half to eleven mill

move the injuries were different. but the majority were exposed to the fourth radiation levels. and received third or fourth degree burns and. one patient died of burns and me and the others were treated at oh medical facility. and then the world war to mosco sucky bully shows with the fourth level of radiation grimshaw sorensen i think he's going to resist. i know the injured are being brought here from the powerful arms they are all covered in radioactive dust and. we are receiving strong those in here too and we're completely i'm ready for what has happened i don't believe in all this at that it just can't be happening this is real hell with the. work because i know i found it inside with a patient record card. we need to leave what's happening we are leaving. more news today violence is once again flared up. these are the images the world has been seeing from the streets of chatter that. giant corporations are the day. for the full story we've got it for. the biggest issues get a human voice ceased to face when the news makers. play. it should make your decision quicker the

people were prepared.the flip side of it it's still heartbreaking to watch your house go under the water slowly. every day you lose a little bit more of your life. >> reporter: it's expected to take three days for the water to flow 20 miles south into the swampland which drains into the gulf of mexico. >>> the san jose sharks may be in the finals >>> the soxes they were on the board first but the canucks came back to win game one of the finals. fred inglis in vancouver. >> reporter: no baseball or basketball in canada, it's only the canucks. >> i just think it's our time. we got the experience last year getting to the semi full-times. i f inalless. f inals. i think it's time. >> game two wednesday night. >>> for the first time in the six year history of the tour of california, the first stage of the race was cancelled today. a snowstorm in the sierras spelled disappointment for the event. race officials said it just wasn't safe enough for the cyclists. questions remain tonight about tomorrow's second stage

that we were. we were dissidents american dissidents in the classic tradition. you know we were we thought it was possible to join the global struggle of revolutionary war at that moment in the sixty's so i understand how we thought about it then. i think now as many old people do that the war metaphor is just so terrible it's just so carol that inflicts so much suffering on everyone. that i wish we had kind of kept the rebel. rebellion metaphor instead of war and metaphor but the other things that we said and i stand by them about the u.s. government being terrorists i didn't come that long ago from what i read this was only in ninety three so just you know decade ago do you still believe i do believe that i think you know bombing from the air in order to save people is a terrible idea and goes bad people don't like it was it terrorism it usually is terrorism because it's killing civilians. i think that you can call it you know a message of. war to free people but i think that of course you know t

and so we were doing this... we were onstage already, we were doing a preview performance. and then we just hear this screaming in the balcony. and i'm thinking... i'm looking up going, "what's going on up there? we're trying to do a show," you know? "are you going to give us a little respect?" >> hinojosa: people were also very upset about the fact that miss saigon... you know, the terms that would be used now would be to say well, it was a show that was looking at the forced trafficking of women in vietnam who were forced to become sexual objects against their will. and you know, this whole drama is made around them, and there's a love story. but do you think that... >> the show would exist today? i don't know. i think it would have been... i think it would have still been able to exist, because then it would really shine a light on how ugly this kind of situation is. and, you know, a lot of the protest at the time was, "you're denigrating women, you're making them out..." but we have to think of it in context. this is 1975. we're not portraying women as they are in 1991,

and then there were people whose lives were put on hold and. these companies came in and give them work i got used to it under living. so just barely comfortable. and i can come along with his child and i want to do. and the problem will be when these companies leave levanon what will happen to these guys and what do you do. through the money and as i said this is. this is the israeli air force. they come every day. every day or every five days it depends. on the coming to visit us today or what yeah they keep us entertained or walking on eggshells and they will decide whether we go that they fly here whenever they want both we are restricted to fly there they don't fly over the beach anymore because they know their rockets. are right because they're scared of us. today hezbollah has missed and believe me if a rogue state can hit tel of eve i'm confident on these words. we haven't disagreed but creating a war between a country and itself. a party. has more weapons than the lebanese city and we're not disagreeing a lot of this is what's frighten

the injuries were different. but the majority of people were exposed to the fourth radiation levels. and received third or fourth degree burns. one patient died of burns. the others were treated at zero medical facility. and then the abort to moscow. shows with the fourth level of radiation grimshaw disoriented and the rest. i notice the injured are being brought here from the clark marks they are all covered in radioactive dust and i suppose we are receiving strong those this year too and we're completely i'm ready for what has happened i don't believe in all this at of it just can't be happening this is real hell. what's that what i found inside a patient record card. we need to leave what's happening we are leaving. i. lead. bringing you the latest in science and technology from around the world. we. cover. it should make your decision quicker the radiation levels are very high here. it's. just ridiculous that's the stuff people please tell me what is this cross doing there it's ok on the just say it's a prote

they were not elected. they were selected by the chief operating officer, whose main bottom line is economics, not justice, and they said, this is the budget you are going to be given. you either do the job with that budget, or we get someone else. are you willing to take the job? that was the condition and made bluntly. i happened to be on the panel. everybody was talking about stakeholders and how we wanted a team player. i think the culture makes the player. now you hire somebody that is going to be a team player. we need independents. i am not sure i would go with the reelection everywhere. in san francisco, you have got an intelligent electorate, but i think independence is very important. also, you have to be independent of the judges. we found they were intimately involved in selecting the people who would appear before them. we found 90% of public defenders reported judicial pressure to expedite cases. that means when you are under one staff -- understaffed and overworked, the judge says, you have e

they were bitter rivals. staal and made a move and fired a warning shot to say you may have the atomic bomb but i have psychological warfare and then through war of the world's he wanted to send the flying disc to land in new mexico and have people come out that look like aliens. the engineer told me that their child sized pilots inside were the result of ghastly human experiments in the soviet union and that is what he told me. i repeat it in my book because i write the uncensored history of very of 51. many people take umbrage with our. a couple of the guys in my book and not happy and i understand. they have said we were john wayne out there saving the free world. no one likes to hear about this possibly kind of gas leak goings on in the desert. this is what my a source told me and i stand by his veracity and it is what a lot of people are very skeptical but at the same time want to know more about >> host: i will ask one follow-up. the reason if it was not aliens to keep this such a deep dark secret was w

they were the ones who were risking their lives. when the freedom rides took place in 1961, john was by then robert kennedy's right-hand man in the civil rights movement. when the first buses of these nice, well-meaning c.o.r.e. people were set on fire and c.o.r.e. properly, i think, bailed, it was the nashville kids with this extraordinary leadership and the great teachings of the reverend james lawson-- having been in the fire and broken the city's-- already disciplined by the sit-in movement and winning there, took it over knowing-- i mean, this is really like the young americans in saving private ryan landing on d-day, really believing that they would be killed. they made out their wills. they were the ones who said, "we will risk our lives to do this." and john, in fact, tried to talk them out of it, as did the senior ministers, who thought, "alabama, mississippi, it's too dangerous. the klan is on the loose." the fbi had not yet-- j. edgar hoover was on the side of, effectively, the forces of segregation. and these young peopl

you know first combat we were bones in our offices and were killed that was our baptism of fire. over the next six months the bomb and determination of soviet soldiers saved the city and trapped the invading germans and circle and which destroyed hitler's biggest army. since that great victory much as changed stalin grab changed its name to volgograd the soviet union itself collapsed and those who remember the battle and now all. but when it comes to monument holding back make sure there was a moment was sexist or some way of us name yes we're going out you have to be careful here this is the most dangerous part of what serious we could be inside a military bunker a metal and concrete certainly make it look like one issue but we emerged to a panoramic view with the city of volgograd stop at least we just popped down to the head of the city's iconic mother russia statue in some ways the statue was a metaphor for the war itself. a rough and ready construction as practical as the soviet soldiers who fought here a strength as defiant as the soviet army clung to the banks of the volga

there were people whose lives were put on hold. these companies came in and clear the work they got used to it and are living on the board so just barely comfortable. and i can put a lot of his johnson family and i want to do externally. and the problem will be when these companies leave lebanon or will happen to these guys and what do you want to do. for it you might meet with i don't know if i stay. out of this is the israeli air force. but they come every day. every day or every five days it depends on how they coming to visit us today or what yeah they keep us entertained or walking on egg shells and they would have said that they fly here whenever they want both we are restricted to fly there i don't fly over the beach anymore because they know there are rockets yeah right so because they're scared of us. today hezbollah has missed. believe me if a rogue state can hit tel aviv i'm confident on these words. we haven't disagreed yet creating a war between a country and itself. a party and the game of baseball has more weapons th

and then there were people whose lives were put on hold and. these companies came in and give them work they got used to it and under living i would so just be fairly comfortable. and i could come i love this johnson family and i want to do externally. and basically the problem will be when these companies leave levanon what will happen to these guys and what do you want to do with. trudi money with you know i don't know because i say this isn't. just. to suss. out of this is the israeli air force. but they come every day. every day or every five days it depends on to be they coming to visit us today or was you know they keep us entertained or walking on eggshells and they would decide whether with that they fly here whenever they want but we are restricted to fly there they don't fly over the beach anymore because they know their rockets. are right so because they're scared of us young was about to find a hezbollah does miss us that believe me if a rogue state can hit tel aviv i'm confident all nice words. we haven't disagreed but creating a w

people now might say we were naive, and maybe we were somewhat naive.ut i think that naivety was necessary, productive. this is why young people play such an important part in transforming this movement everywhere. because oftentimes they refused to believe it's not possible. i'd like to point out this even though we did not win the revolution we thought we were struggling for, we did bring about dramatic change. what i've come to realize over the years is that in the process of struggling for freedom, our very notion of freedom brought us, becomes more capacious, begins to include so much more. perhaps that is what it's all about. perhaps we'll never reach that end goal. as nelson mandela pointed out in "long walk to freedom" whenever he reached the point where he thought that he could stop and rest, he looked ahead and there were many, many more struggles to embrace. and dr. king when he went to the top of the mountain, he never told us what he actually saw. and i would say what he saw was uninfinite progression of struggles for freedom. we will never

they were found? >> they were from families. after that, and jane foster's family offered me personal letters and diaries. there's the huge archive that paul and julia left to harvard. other families provided me with letters and diaries, and i did an enormous amount of research in the military's libraries and repositories where i found all the telegrams and intelligence reports that they filed, many of julia's memos, jane foster's reports, all the superior's reports about them, and i could tell you where they were and what they did much of the time they were abroad, and then they all stayed such close friends and exchanged letters throughout the 50s, so even after the war, i was able to keep up with them, and they were very frank in the letters. they are moving about the fear of losing jobs and what's happening to their friends. you can really get a feeling for the time. >> [inaudible] >> use the microphone, please. >> during the time of the inquestion cigs in washington, were people sympathetic? were the american people sympath

it looked like a bunker. >> there were explosions everywhere. many people were wounded. many of them were burned to death. this is what happened! >> we were taken to another site. again, the polls. this time, there were stairs leading into the ground. the crowds had been positioned along the railings. every time we tried to fill it, we were mocked. in the next field, a group of men blocked the view of what looked like a ventilation staff. there were satellite dishes, barbwire, atv area. -- buta tv area. it would appear that there is a sophisticated bunker network beneath the compound. it has already been hit by nato jets, but look what they put next to it, a children's playground. this was built some time ago. officials said this was a sewage system and rejected the idea they had surrounded the installations with women and children. >> this is our country, this is our city! these are our compounds. >> nato continues to dismantle colonel gaddafi possibility to control and command his forces, moving and on radio signals that put them to supposed radio bonkers. the military

they were cleaned up but they were shown. i was also in iraq when saddam hussein was hung and that video leaked out from spot where he was being hung and there was a lot of alarm expressed that this would send the wrong signal and people would be infuriated and it would lead to attacks. none of those things happened. and i think that the white house is being a little too cautious. that part of the argument that this might incite more violence i don't fully buy. >> i thoroughly disagree in this sense. that the prudential argument might be empty, it's going to cause more violence. i think the moral argument is very strong and i think that it was one of the most distinguished things obama's ever done. because we try to distinguish ourselves. we have to use violence, even liberal states and societies, lincoln was the great exponent of this notion. we have to use violence at times because we live in a violent world. but we use violence as a last resort in necessary of self-defense, not as a first option in national self-assertion.

eventually we were met by a lorry going -- because we were on the trade route. we were met by a lorry going in the other direction. it took the people who were hurt and me because i was the guest back to khartoum, we started all over again and made the trip in five days on a different lorry. you know, some people say, well, that's a failure. you didn't -- your mission wasn't, you know, your objective was to get out there smoothly and safely. but that experience and then being out in darfur for those many months with no mail, no phone service, no, you know, e-mail didn't exist, there weren't any faxes. if my children tried this today, i would kill them. [laughter] but i think that experience made me feel so powerful because you figure it out. i didn't speak the language when i first got there. you figure it out. and when you learn, you can say anybody had the experience of moving to a new city and having no friends and no place to live, you've got to find a place to live? you start building a life? it's empowering when you figure it out. and part of it is learnin

they were people on the ground and yet they were law shapers.they were launch lunch reporters, even lawmakers if you begin to consider their role in the passage of the landmark civil rights legislation. now i talked about a few people who are public figures and you are already familiar with them, john lewis and julian bond but there were a lot of people in this book oh my talk about who are less familiar or totally unfamiliar. bill ware, margaret mills, michael michael's sentiments, eva davis, m. armor. these people are all history makers. and i hope that one day when a group is assembled and their names are called out, people will be able to raise their hands and remember them saying that yes i remember ethel mae matthews and howard moore, len holt and a.t. walden. all of these people who have to create a more vibrant democracy, a more perfect union. all of them ought to be remembered along with justice marshall and i hope that you will. thank you and i look forward to your questions. [applause] and if you will please come forward if you have q

he said we were so cocky. we were sure we were going to win.d to make that mistake. >> when you talk to republicans every day, is that what they are like or do they have grumbles? >> it's not so much grumbles as it is sort of a loud sigh because they're not sure how it will play out. everyone they are looking at now isn't an obvious rock star. the fact that the house majority leader eric cantor said he thought paul ryan could be a good candidate even though paul ryan, the house budget chairman who has a controversial medicare plan, said yesterday on sunday talk shows very clearly i'm not running. i think that speaks volumes as to where they are. one person speaking of congress we need to focus on is michelle bachmann. if she does, iowa is turned upside down. >> here's my question. every republican i talk to say this is a seminole election. why can't they get the candidates they want to run that the establishment would like to run, why aren't they getting in the race this time? >> who cares about the establishment. who cares about the establishm

for john that morning we were to cross the moselle you were on one side of the river and you were being destroyed by artillery shells coming the other way. i was getting off. in the dirt because we knew we were going to be attacked america over and i was had michele in my hand and then suddenly i was flying through the air like a huge sledgehammer that hit me and thrown me way into the air and i didn't know it as come back to the ground i went up. to the suddenly i fell back. put my hand up and i felt a piece of something in my head and then i looked at my hands and they were just scarlet with blood i looked at my back at my butt and my butt was if you could see the white fat in this huge hole in my butt i remember always lying there and. the many came over and he tried to fix me up and he was being over me and i watched a clip of his nose disappear a piece of shrapnel cut off the tip of his nose and then the blood from his nose merged with my nose. and the next thing i knew i was in a stretcher i still hadn't heart yet because i was still paralyzed on my right side and when i had the o

were the ones who had prepared the ground for that revolution. they learned to walk in the old port town of disaster pirates and use it as a stopping place hundreds of years ago the founders liken themselves to such pirates of centuries past. maybe cause for freedom for transparency and so for human rights and for democracy both internet activists agree that julian assange invented a truly effective method of influencing real politics via the internet the growth maybe it was. the leaks that have been published. and i would play the role we don't know we cannot measure of how big it was but it does help at the fairer than government that has been scared about the corruption of the family and close member of the thought it sure we. that are not very different and. to hide certain things. later that same day the streets impunity has swelled with crowds of people again. but this time around they were not protesting it was a celebration in egypt president hosni mubarak had been forced to step down under the pressure from millions of people another int

and there were already going to. you know they're going to stage a coup against sr anything like that and he said no they are just down there are certain and you know chanting and yelling i go behind my home beat and tear open an m.r.e. and all a sudden i hear a gunshot i step out from behind me on the. as soon as i step out from behind my humvee my marines are destroying their weapons and the demonstrators so on sling my weapon and i put the the stock up and. the thought of the rifle stock up on my shoulder and i start firing. and i'm hitting i'm hitting the demonstrators no i am. and of course i mean we have a head i mean. center mass but i don't know who called cease fire all i know is it was kind of like simultaneously we all just stop firing. the lieutenant he comes up to me and he goes what the hell happened. i don't know you tell me sir you're the lieutenant. i said i do you know i heard a gunshot that went over our heads and i said that you're heard to say well the open fire. i don't know. where when we did t

we were like can it be where we were to be. and the other cop unaids welcome bergy and wipe an enemy out. there was a bright night you could. see long distances by them all we had been out for quite a while on this patrol and i am saying anything. we were. all at once some big car stepped out of the bushes. and it startled him to see that it startled me and. he was firing and i didn't have my weapon was behind the guy i thought my way up here are. so i managed to get. hang grenades off my belt. cost a couple grenades. now with what i've got. then we could see as far as we could see there would be a call that was coming up to our program that. we called in for and are ready to fire including getting we called in for the mission to return. because of problem is getting overwhelmed. so welcome on the cold as you just try to find a place and spend the night there we told the marcy and he was on the one that was killed and when a bomb crater and we sat there on i. say potentially you know mechanize you know they came in and we loade

crimes that were committed by him and his regime criticized for his dictatorial rule.so look some other news now is thought of both caring up to six hundred libyans trying to flee the violence has sunk off the coast of north africa several people have reportedly drowned it follows an earlier report a sixty one migrants in libya dying from thirst and hunger on board another vessel of delivery from the mediterranean for a fortnight witnesses say nato deliberately ignored the boat's mayday calls from a belgian and payload has been outspoken about the treatment of refugees says it shows willful negligence these kind of events are sound hardly surprising to me you're talking about the most sophisticated technological arm in the world and they would not be capable of finding some boats at sea while they are have operations. under close to somalia where they can stop one simple tank in a city and they could not do that i highly doubt it so we doubt getting into details of the specific events this holiday surprise me but it's only logical humanitarian concerns are not on the a

how were we affected? did our outlook, culture, politics and country change as a consequence of the paris experience of these americans? >> how many times have you been to paris? >> well, my wife and i first went in 1961. i was then part of the kennedy administration, very young, and we were on our way to the near east. i was doing a magazine about the arab world for the u.s. information agency. our first time, there were no jets as yet. so we flew over on a prop plane, took forever. we landed at night. it was february. it was cold and raining, and it didn't matter in the slightest to us. we were in paris. we walked for hours that night because we were so thrilled to be there. we have been going back fairly often since. i haven't counted the times we have been to paris. probably 20 times, maybe more. but i have also done research there. part of the john adams book took place in paris. and the jefferson-adams- franklin time in paris is an important part of the american story. i was also there to do research

they were not.y were not because east german forces had no right to be in east berlin doing the things they were doing, so if kennedy -- >> host: because it was under full ally control? >> guest: right. there was one argument that was right of access, and so it was a violation of that. if the president of the united states had wanted to make it so, and then there was another which was the activities of east german soldiers which was also a violation if the president of the united states wanted to make it so. that's the point. he didn't want to. he actually thought -- he actually thought by helping chf get out of this problem, he could reduce tension between the u.s. and soviet union and therefore have more fruitful negotiations on things he cared on more than -- >> host: which was? >> nuclear arm bans. >> host: you point that out. >> guest: there was a situation in cambodia and nervous about this global situation, and by fixing berlin he thought he could make a more pliable khrushchev. up deed he di

we were scared. we were not only scared about our lives, but scared of what's next.t's going to happen to us? we've got families. i've got a kid. my wife's pregnant. >> warner: the last thing they wanted to see in bahrain was an arab spring-style revolution. >> i disagree on people comparing what's happened to bahrain to what's happened in egypt and tunisia. because i just don't see that we... we have the same problems they have. we live a better life, that's for sure. >> look at egypt, they're suffering. tunisia, all those countries are now almost in absolute chaos. is that the better quality of life that they told us would happen if the regime were not in place? >> warner: abdul wahab, a dermatologist at sulmanyia hospital, thinks the detentions of shia doctors-- who she said made sunni doctors and patients feel unwelcome -- is more than justified. >> from my perspective, it was a... such a scary place to go to. i used to cry in the morning when i was going to work. i was too scared. what's happening in salmaniya was completely unethical. those nurses and doctors d

let's begin when you were taken. how were you captured? >> there was four of us, myself, manu, claire and anton. we were riding in a rebel vehicle, we exited the vehicle. about a few minutes later two heavily armed qaddafi vehicles came over the hill firing and shortly after that we were all captured. >> suarez: so you realized right at that moment that this was something more serious than simply being stopped, having your papers checked, being momentarily detained? >> oh, definitely, the level of fire towards us was something i hadn't experienced before and i was in afghanistan. accurate fire directed at us. we pressed our bodies to the ground and they got out of the vehicles and came closer firing. >> suarez: sco so you identified yourself as journalists. how were you treated by the soldiers? >> i had to jump up and say "journalist." i wasn't sure if they knew we were journalists. we were certainly unarmed. we were hit a couple times, struck with the butt of an a.k.-47 and punched and claire was dragged by her hair and also punched as we

were not republicans or democrats, they were americans. those who launched the -- who have been working on this diligently for 9.5 years, not republicans or democrats, they are americans. those who carried out the mission yesterday, the same considered -- be said about them. one theme you will hear from the president tonight is about the capacity for americans to come together and achieve difficult goals when we work together. >> will we get that live? >> we can follow up with you and logistics. i do not believe that we are -- there is some logistical issues here. we will get it to you afterwards if not live. let me do 10 minutes or so so we can file and other things. i will move around and take the associated press and move around a little bit. >> thank you. this is in line with what we were talking about but of the president gave this order on friday morning and went on this long trip on friday, have the dinner, he was' golfing, can you talk about his mood as he was trying to keep his poker face going through these other events, meanwhil

were you watching the operation? were you just... were you listening to it? how were you getting your informatn >>he principals convened yesterday around midday. there were others who we were here early yesrday morning. thpresident joined us then early afternoon before the operation got under y. when the operati did get under way, then the president rejoined the group and we were able to monitor in a real-time basis the progress of the operation from its commencement to its timeline target to the tracon of remains and to the the egrs off of the rget. it wasprobably onof the most anxiety-filled periods of time i think in the lives of the people who were assembled here yesterday. the minutes passed like days and the president was very concerned about the security of our personnel. that was what was on his mind throughout and we wanted to make sure we were able to get through this and accomplish the mission. but itas clearly very tense. a lot of people holding their breath. and there was a fair degree of silence as it progressed, as we would get the updates. and

you were lucky if you were blond and you were light enough that you could pass. no one was allowed to speak the dena'ina language. they didn't allow it in schools, and a lot of the women had married non-native men, and the men said, "you're american now, so you can't speak the language." so we became invisible in the community, invisible to each other, and then because we couldn't speak the language-- what happens when you can't speak your own language is that you have to think with someone else's words, and that's a dreadful kind of isolation. [narrator] today the kenai river has become a tourist destination. tourists are drawn here for the same reasons that the native alaskan inhabitants came-- the abundant fish and game. it was a migratory route which led from cook inlet up the kenai river to the russian river. today the area is marketed to tourists as wilderness. [man] they come to fish, to see the game. alaska is probably the last place in the northern hemisphere where things of those sights in nature are road accessible. there's still the wilderness in sibe