first caspar wine berger and then colin powell who he worked with, there were a certain principle that he enunciated ant when the united states should go in and it should go in with full force and you know the rules he articulated. that would be a difference from what you might have been saying. >> no. >> rose: okay. >> no, he didn't express differences of views inmeeting at i was attending. >> rose: you can tell me that you know of no conflict that existed on either stlat ji or ins between you and the secretary of state? >> the intelligence material that he studied day after day out at the agency in the national secury council. >> rose: you said before he made the speech. >> and then he made a decision what should be in the speech. he gave the speech. he believed every wd in ts. >> rose: i don't tnk anyone questions whether he believed it. he clearly did. but some questions have been raised as to whether the information he'd been given was right. >> there were portions of it that weren't right! >> rose: clearly. >> and that's always the case with intelligence. my goodness, we knee. th

now today we'll speak with lawrence wilkerson colin powells former chief of staff about president obama's speech tonight on withdrawing troops from afghanistan also take a look at what the chairman ben bernanke had to say in his second press conference and let's just say that it wasn't good news and then we'll look into an f.b.i. raid that took place last night some reports are saying that it might have to do with an attempted crackdown on world security or have all the more free tonight but first let's take a quick look at what your mainstream media is missing. so tonight at eight pm president obama will be giving a speech to the nation announcing his plan his timetable for withdrawing troops from afghanistan and the mainstream media actually notice this time. tonight tonight president obama outlines the beginning of the end of u.s. military involvement in afghanistan now sources tell c.n.n. that the president will announce ten thousand american troops will be coming home by the end of this year and for eighteen months our troops will begin to come home . tonight president obama is plann

that was retired general former secretary of state colin powell, with a question for president obamas father's day. the president, of course, barely knew his own father, barack obama sr. was largely absent from his son's life. and abc's robin roberts spoke with the commander in chief about what that experience taught him. and she joins us now. robin, those lessons have not just influenced the president's decision as a father, but to colin powell's point, have they also shaped some administration's policies? >> that's a good point, yes, they have. christiane, president obama knows first hand the challenges one can face, growing up without a father in the home and has established many fatherhood initiative, including this year's program which is called strong father, strong families and the president sparked a national conversation, a dialogue about fatherhood and taking personal responsibilities, i've had a chance this week to go to the white house and sit down with the dad this chief. >> perfect day on father's day, is just spending time with them. the great thing, and some of this i

colin powell, one of my favorite people on the planet said to me you know when you're on a subway train in new york and you get to the last stop, when you get to that stop, get off. tavis: mm-hmm. >> if you go back, you're just trailing old territory. you got to know when to get off the train. and i think most people watching who are thinking of this know it. you know it when it is time. the only thing is, as i said there, may be times when you regret it. tavis: hmm mm. >> the time i almost left cnn. i had a window in my contract and i almost left two years after i started. i was going to leave. i had offers from abc. kingworld was going to set me up like in an oprah situation. i was going follow "nightline". the bait bob wolf was going to go down to atlanta and tell ted we were leaving and angie dickinson, dear friend, i came out to los angeles and she said to me -- oh, i'm leave. she said to me, a simple question. are you unhappy? oh, no. why are you leaving? i said it is more money. you're just leaving for money. if you leave something just for money, the first bad day you have you'r

little bit the way we said back in 2001 and 2002 with my good friend, former secretary of state, colin powell. the way president bush and fox wanted to address it, and the way president obama wants to address it now. legalize the people who are here without papers. establish a migrant workers program for people to be able to continue to enter the united states as the u.s. economy needs their labor. support and help the areas of mexico where these migrants come from so that they eventually start staying in their hometowns unless they are needed in the united states and once you've done that, ensure that the u.s., mexican border is only open to legal entry with the cooperation of both countries to make that entry legal. but you can't stop illegal entries unless you increase the number of legal entries. if not, you are going to have people climbing over the fence or under the fence or swimming across the mote with alligators like president obama said a few days ago. >> what are you doing today? >> i spend 1/3 of my year in new york city. i teach at nyu. i've been teaching for 14 years, expect fo

and the occupation remember the yellowcake uranium the biological mobile weapons labs you know colin powell holding up the anthrax well that although not so he spent billions of innocent civilians slaughtered yes one thing we did go to the hospital we saw civilians who were been hit with shrapnel i think one of the things is nato was saying we are not targeting civilians we've got the video footage of these people photographs and now nato at least has to admit that it is hurting civilians in its attacks and they did admit to killing recently that killed some children but that's when i found out from president obama our own president speaking just a few days ago working mentioned libya let's think about it when innocents are being slaughtered and global security in danger we don't have to choose between standing idly by or acting on iran. instead we must rally international action which we're doing in libya where we do not have a single soldier on the ground but are supporting allies and protecting the libyan people and giving them the chance to term their own destiny so when you heard the p

doesn't you know this real well but everybody felt he was real it would keep in mind remember colin powell please everybody believed it was real because it worked well for the political narrative that george bush wanted to be a war president well back in one thousand nine hundred ninety told making her supports his biographer if he became president he was going to invade iraq because by being a war president he had enough political capital to privatise social security all that obviously didn't happen but he tried but you know here's you said deal with it with iraq the key thing here is that we have a chance to make iraq a closer ally at least to go for cooperation council states and ultimately the united states now this is very important because you've got to look at what iran is trying to do i you think you are going to try to is on his way out that may be the case what is the best way to do that to just back out and start. in schools and hospitals is that of blowing people up but we are building schools and hospitals to on but also employ people though i mean if they gradients came in an

army colonel and former chief of staff to colin powell when it's thanks so much for being here tonight and what's going on here like i said we can play the numbers game we can say it's sixty days seventy two days ninety days but even the nato secretary general said today will put this ninety day timeline on the map but if our mission isn't completed by then we can also scary and keep stay there to make sure that everyone knows that we're getting killed what's the point of the numbers well this reminds me of. his book on war you should know where you're going before you start you should know how you're going to get out before you begin i don't think we have any idea what we're doing. so i think we're. probably. khadafi will somehow find but why. there's no indication that he's going to do so there's every indication this is a civil war but the sides are fairly evenly split in the air power one side here we are again with that wonderful leaks are air power is not a determinant of who's going to win or lose do we put troops on the ground and bring this to a conclusion. what's congress goi

army colonel and former chief of staff to colin powell lawrence thanks so much for being here tonight thanks so for starters do you know any information that i don't like i said in the new york times the washington post are saying that they got a call from the white house telling them before the speech that it's going to be ten thousand out by end of two thousand and eleven and the rest of the surge by summer summer of two thousand and twelve can you confirm that you know anything else i don't know anything else i do know that i would like you lord for the fact that the media are paying attention to it finally it's understandable why they're not no one really fighting in afghanistan within the foreign legion we've created with our armed forces but they're missing a huge gamble don't lose by that but no one's fighting other than the foreign legion that we've created well it's what we do in less than one percent of those countries believe in dying for the rest of this country. so why should anyone pay attention to their son or daughter's not being in danger in afghanistan and there's no

admiral you do not get to this big position without being a politician i can take you back to colin powell in the long before that will take you back to us great for that matter you don't mean you go all the way back and you realize that if you get to that level you are a politician you're just a politician with a uniform on rather than a ten thousand dollar suit there's not that much different otherwise and in fact he simply working his way through that power base just like so many other politicians do dare i say it but it is true things like that have to be part of that job description are to get as far as he's gotten you know let through comparison here leon panetta who has replaced thing when he first came on he was pretty open about his views on torture coming out staunchly against it you know saying we cannot and we must not use torture under any circumstances and i say the dismay i think of the bush administration i wondering though these kind of comments i mean do you think general petraeus being an outspoken about this or other things you know i really don't but you know what here

you know, as colin powell said "when the train gets to the last stop, get off." >> jimmy: we do misswere a staple to television. you're a legend. you're phenomenal. we love you. [ cheers and applause ] the book has some great, great stories in here. in know last time, we talked about don rickles. you were friends with him. you had such a funny story about him. >> don is -- >> jimmy: what were you shooting -- he was shooting a war movie, wasn't he? >> no, no. "warriors." "kelly's heroes," "kelly's warriors," it was with clint eastwood, and they had a scene where the two of them were running and shrapnel went off. right? and they're supposed to blow them up, and there's a -- this german shrapnel expert way ahead. like big shrapnel. it was shrapnel. he's supposed to set it off after they pass it, and they edited film to bring them together. eastwood is running like it's a race. right? they're supposed to run together. he's 100 yards ahead of don rickles, so they blow don up. [ laughter ] they blow don up. now it's yugoslavia. they're in yugoslavia. don sent me letter from yugoslavia, in

as a prank and if this is a prank, i guess we're lucky they pulled it on anthony weiner and not colin powell won't -- he isn't denying the picture is him. he told wolf blitzer it doesn't look familiar. that's something you're familiar with. i'm so familiar with mine if i described it to a police sketch artist, it would be arrested within minutes. the best part of the story, of course, is that now, when we turn on the news, we get to hear this over and over again. >> weiner. weiner. weiner. wine er weiner. weiner. weiner. >> winner. >> jimmy: oh wait a minute. never mind. so, you know when a politician whose name is weiner potentially tweet as picture of his weiner for a late night talk show it's almost too much for us to handle. we actually had a small explosion in the writer's room today, so -- to help us through this overwhelming time we decided to outsource some of our work tonight. we have a company in india that helps write jokes for us. let's get them up. >> all right. the word is psoriasis. >> p-s-o-r-i-a-s-i-s. >> jimmy: hello, guys? guys? i don't mean to interrupt, but are you there

he believed that if you went in -- colin powell gets the credit for the doctrine of overwhelming force these days, and i often think that general powell ought to remind us that dwight eisenhower talked about that all the time. but, of course, eisenhower got it from the great german general. anyway, overwhelming force and that marginal, the trouble -- ike understood very well the trouble with partial interventions is they spin out of control, that they are very hard to manage. and the libyan one appears to me to be that way, too, so i don't know whether the president would want to talk with me about that or not. [laughter] i'm a little concerned about that it's becoming a stalemate. and you can have not only a unilateral quagmire like we've had a couple of other places, you can have a multilateral quagmire too. yes, sir. >> what was richard nixon's role in if all this, if any? >> richard nixon's role, there's a lot of mythology about nixon and eisenhower. there's just, you know, i don't want to get too involved, but the eisenhower presidency has just been distorted by my profession sham

don't need a third major military commitment and when you make a military commitment of that size, colin powell is right you break it; you buy it. we don't need to buy another torn muslim socie. we've got two already, iraq and afghanistan. >> rose: how do you think iraq will turn out? >> i think it's pretty messy. i think it will be perhaps in the very long run it will work itself out but you can't look at the price we've paid in terms of people, iraqis, americans... >> rose: in terms of our reputation... >> right and say it's worked out all right. i think it remains a case right now where the costs significantly outweigh the benefits. >> rose: and one of those costs is afghanistan. >> one of those costs is afghanistan. and, you know, who knows if afghanistan, by the way, could have been resolved perfect. i think one of the things we've learned about both these places is perhaps you have to do some element of nation building as part of a counterinsurgency strategy to win the local population over but it is a hellishly diffult, time-consuming, expensive mission and it is a mission without end be

any support for troops on the ground and i think once we put troops on the ground, then the old colin powellu break it, you own it comes into play. because this is going to be a complicated transition, and probably will take a number of years before libya develops the institutions we want. there's a lot of tension between the east and the west. so i agree in an optimal world i would send in a u.n. force, but it's not going to be a u.n. force and i don't see nato troops going in. >> general marks, you want to comment on that? >> i sure do. i would say that it doesn't necessarily have to be united states, and i would not suggest that the united states do that. but at the end of the day, there is going to be some incredible score settling that will be taking place and that will be another catastrophe that we want to prevent and that's going to require somebody in between these two forces. >> thanks for being with us. >>> coming up, the casey anthony murder trial, focusing on the smell in anthony's trunk of her car. a lot of testimony about that today. will the jury buy today's testimony from th

and general colin powell also has endorsed it. he believes, as i do, that this is a fair thing to do, a just thing to do and would be good for our military. over the years, these young people started coming forward more and more and speaking about their lives, and perhaps more bravado than they should have, they were prepared to risk deportation to tell their stories. well, over the years, these dreamers have become an important part of this effort to pass the dream act. we have the support of so many groups across america, including religious groups and many others who believe that this is the right and fair thing to do. we invite young people across america, if they want to voluntarily do so, to tell us their stories, and i come to the floor of the senate tonight to tell two stories about two young dream act people and their lives. the first one is juan rios. this is a photograph of juan rios. brought to the united states when he was 10 years old. he grew up in the state of arizona. in high school, juan discovered his calling, m

the president needs to listen to colin powell. we need some exit strategies so we can come on home.ost: sal off of twitter says this. we will continue on with your thoughts on president obama having a rationalization for what is going on in libya. for a few moments, we want to focus on the news from yesterday. john edwards broke law to cover up his indictment. j. andrew curliss is on the phone. can you explain what the prosecution is arguing and what edwards defense is? guest: the prosecutors have kept it simple. they said all of the hundreds of thousands of dollars that went from -- to wealthy donors involved in the edwards campaign paid the expenses of his mistress for a time frame and should have been reported as campaign contributions, because they were made to keep the campaign going. the edwards' team says that is not what the law says. what you are seeing is a focus on the intenst. a big part of a criminal case is the intent to violate a law. the intent to violate a law. they have to know what it is and squint their eyes at it and say, i will violate that law. yesterday after

colin powell amendment -- the clerk: amendment number 1 printed in part b of house report 112-111 offered by mr. watt of california. the chair: pursuant to house resolution 316, the gentleman from north carolina, mr. watt, and a member opposed, each will control five minutes. the chair recognizes the gentleman from north carolina. mr. watt: thank you, madam chair. i yield myself such time as i may consume. the chair: the gentleman is recognized. mr. watt: solely to say that this is a straightforward amendment that provides that if one part of the bill is determined to be unconstitutional it can be severable from the rest of the bill and doesn't bring the rest of the provisions down. that's a standard policy put in most legislation, and with that i reserve the balance of my time. the chair: the gentleman reserves the balance of his time. the gentleman from texas. mr. smith: madam chair, i rise in -- to claim the time in opposition although i support the amendment. the chair: the gentleman is recognized. mr. smith: madam chair, i thank the gentleman for offering the amendment and urge my co

their support, all of your joining a distinguished list of alums including jacqueline kennedy and colin powellke a look at the people on either side. the guy sitting to your left could be a future secretary of state. the girl on your right could be a future president of the united states. [applause] take a moment to look around the national mall. we gather not only at the foot of the washington monument but longin abraham lincoln's shadow. last month, our nation marked the anniversary of the start of the civil war. it was fought to preserve the union, to preserve america's bold experiment self-government. lincoln's war grew into something larger. a struggle for freedom. while more than a century for equal opportunity would follow his death, his leadership redeemed america's original sin and allowed us to fulfil our destiny as a land of freedom and opportunity. years ago, while many of you were in grade school, the freedom that lincoln secured for all americans and the generations have fought to protect came under attack by terrorists, the most deadly in our history. i'm sure some of you rememb

their support, all of your joining a distinguished list of alums including jacqueline kennedy and colin powell. take a look at the people on either side. the guy sitting to your left could be a future secretary of state. the girl on your right could be a future president of the united states. [applause] take a moment to look around the national mall. we gather not only at the foot of the washington monument but longin abraham lincoln's shadow. last month, our nation marked the anniversary of the start of the civil war. it was fought to preserve the union, to preserve america's bold experiment self-government. lincoln's war grew into something larger. a struggle for freedom. while more than a century for equal opportunity would follow his death, his leadership redeemed america's original sin and allowed us to fulfil our destiny as a land of freedom and opportunity. years ago, while many of you were in grade school, the freedom that lincoln secured for all americans and the generations have fought to protect came under attack by terrorists, the most deadly in our history. i'm sure some of you re

all of you are joining a distinguished list of alums including jacqueline bouvier kennedy and colin powell. so just take a look at the people sitting on either side. the guy sitting to your left could be a future secretary of state. and the girl sitting to your right could be a future president of the united states. [applause] >> also, take a moment take a look around this national mall. we gather not only at the foot of the washington monument which is only appropriate but also in president abraham lincoln's long shadow. last month our nation marked the 150th anniversary of the start of the civil war. it was fought to preserve the union, to preserve america's bold experiment with democratic self-government. but lincoln's war for union grew into something larger, a struggle for freedom. and while more than a century for equal rights and equal opportunity to follow his death, lincoln's leadership redeemed america's original sin. and allowed us to fulfill our destiny as a land of freedom and opportunity. 10 years ago, while many of you were in the sixth or seventh grade, the freedom that lin

the dream act has the support of not only secretary of defense robert gates but also general colin powell. and it will help our economy by giving these talented young people the chance to become engineers and entrepreneurs, doctors, lawyers, teachers, small business owners and nurses. that's why the dream act has the support of business leaders from across the political spectrum. rupert murdoch and the c.e.o.'s of companies like microsoft and pfizer. the talented young people who would be eligible for the dream act call themselves dreamers. when i embarked on this mission ten years ago they used to hold back in the shadows after a meeting and whisper to me as i went by that they would be saved if the dream act is passed. now they are stepping forward so america can see who they are. every day these dreamers kapbgt my office to tell -- contact my office to tell me the stories. these stories energize me to keep up the fight. the last time we had a vote on this on the senate floor was last december. we had a majority but it takes 60 here. i want to revisit that issue and give these young peo

on my immediate right, colin r powell who's the deputy assistant secretary of defensete for the middlee did here. he is an expert on counterterrorism,counrterrori counterinsurgency because the consequences of violent civild e and ethnic conflict, so well tat positioned to talked about topic here in the middle east. on my left is dr. hamid who jusm flew in last night fromhe is brookings. he is an expert on islamic political parties and .. long be spring. on my far right is richard fontaine to as i mentioned is the author of the internet freedom study and has experience on the hill, five years as the is the foreign-policy adviser for senator mccain. .. >> with the adviser to general stanley mcchrystal and the author of this man's army. and has a degree of the police stearns study from the americanhe university and has spent from all over the region but particularly in egypt after the revolution. i have watched the administration be somewhat conflicted about how to respond to events in the middle east. where to support stability of autocratic regimes and democracy. on which america stands

dream act would strengthen our military, it would strengthen our nation, and i'm sure as general colin powellas said, immigration is what's keeping this country's lifeblood moving forward and these young people can help us move forward as a nation to be more -- to be safer and create more opportunity. we have a number of challenges ahead. our men and women are fighting wars in iraq, afghanistan and now libya. service members and their families have borne an incredible burden of sacrifice in these conflicts over the last decade. as a nation, we are spending tens of billions of dollars to sustain them in their efforts. at the same time, public support for these undertakings will not last forever. the current situation needs to change and the president is about to make an announcement when it comes to our troop levels in afghanistan. we have to craft a way forward that will deal honestly and responsibly with what is possibly one of our most challenging situations in afghanistan. it has to begin, i believe, with a substantial redeployment of u.s. troops back to america from afghanistan. last week