. >> david carney in new hampshire goes back years running campaigns.na chairman of the republican party. bruce schoenfeld in iowa -- >> veterans. >> veterans. and sonny perdue. let's talk about the polling. speaker gingrich had a challenge to begin with. he has high name recognition. every republican knows who he is. but he was running about 8%. we put the graphic up there for you. rudy giuliani who's not even running still thinking about it but not even running, governor romney, governor palin who again is just thinking about it. a lot of people, a lot of people above speaker gingrich to xwin-w jeff zeleni and there was always the question a would he have the splirngs b could he raise the money because he is unpredictable and combustible. and c would republican voters looking for a new leader want to go back? could he recover from a stumble like this? >> it's hard to imagine how he could recover from a stumble like this. but i spent quite a about the of time with him in iowa. he did just finish a 17-city tour in iowa. he was in smaller towns and far-f

and, you're right, david carney and rob johnson, were closely identified-- who were in the gingrich campaign quit yesterday, were closely identified with rick perry. dan carney had been his principal consultant. >> brown: do you read anything into this? >> i do. i still hear he's not running but i don't think he's made determination. he's from texas. and there's a sense another governor from texas wouldn't fly right now. he is not the greatest campaigner. i guess among the candidates i keep hearing more about rudy giuliani this week that he's likely to get in. >> brown: do you take that seriously? >> i take it a little more seriously. he will have to step up his game if he is going to compete. he was not a good candidate last time. to run for president you have to be willing to eat dirt and crawl on the ground. >> it is a tough job! >> gingrich wasn't willing to do that. >> brown: eat dirt and crawl on the ground. >> it's physically demanding. it's psychologically demanding. it's emotionally demanding. it really is. the an dote about the rural new hampshire voter who asked about john mccain,