once told me going to a democratic convention i think it must have been 1952, and there was james michael curleyin the delegation. i think it was 52 engine can fact check me on this if i'm wrong. he was deep into writing his book book alina fox a gym earnestly went up to governor curley and said, well did you have a strong memory of president roosevelt, mr. curley? he said yes, what a. [laughter] he also mentioned to me once that i think he overheard a member of congress saying to another member of congress, fdr is his own worst enemy and the other member of congress replied not as long as i'm alive. [laughter] so that was another side of this. i think we have run to the end of our time. all i can say is you can see why jim burns is one of the great founding fathers not only a roosevelt scholarship that of american political science and historical writing in this country and all i can say is thank god for williams college for bringing us all together. thank you all for being here. [applause] [applause] >> thank you very much. thank you overcoming and let's give one more hand to our guests, susan