joining me now is kim lawton, managing editor of this program. kim, are the bishops really following those 2002 guidelines? >> reporter: well, they say the majority of bishops are following the guidelines, but there are a couple who are not, and that has lead to some pretty high-profile scandals. one in philadelphia, another one most recently that, last couple weeks in missouri, where the local bishop had to apologize for a priest that was arrested child pnography charges. >> and whether a bishop has to follow those 2002 guidelines is up to the bishop. there's no way that the other bishops can make him do that, right? >> reporter: well, they are nonbinding, and the bishops say that they don't have the authority to discipline or impose penalties, that only the pope can discipline a bishop. so therefore they say this has to be part of the "fraternal correction," and it is sort of voluntary. >> the southern baptists, southern baptist convention, also gathered this week in phoenix and took steps to make their denomination more diverse, more ethnic diñ