that as soon as we leave, malachy will take over the entire government. he'll have another shiite country which is very dangerous to our interests, for example work the saudiees who are in a range. >> do we have the image every being a militaristic world power? >> we have a different kind of image in one sense we've had that image because we're so powerful and have the military capacity to extends our military reach. i do think they think we are not a competent country any longer, that we're not the powerful country as we used to be, and i think that's our problem. >> what do you make of the polling, eleanor, on this? the american people wanting us outs of iran -- out of afghanistan? if certainly out of iraq. >> well we're coming odds of iraq. >> how long do you want to stretch that out? the lockests war in our history! >> no, it's seconds longest, after afghanistan. and i think because of the loss of life and the potential risk in afghanistan, that's much higher on people's minds. iraq was a huge consumed the bush presidency. it's costs thousands of amer