(laughter) please welcome sugar ray leonard! (cheers and applause) mr. leonard, thanks so much for coming on. my goodness, my goodness, let's just lay it out for the people. let's just... first of all, ding ding. but second of all let's lay it out for the people. you, olympic gold medalist, boxing titles in five different weight classes. you defeated roberto duran, thomas hearns, marvelous marvin haggler. you have a new memoir "sugar ray leonard, the big fight, my life in and out of the ring." do you miss the ring, sir? >> i don't miss getting hit. (laughter). >> stephen: the key is to not get hit. somebody should have told you that. (laughter). >> you know, stephen, i miss the camaraderie, i miss training camp. i miss choreographing the fight in my head. i miss all that action. >> stephen: choreograph, do you tap dance, like all americans do? >> yes. a little bit. >> stephen: a little bit? >> stephen: heel ball change... what do you call that? kick ball change? >> that's as far as i got. >> stephen: now you really came to prominence in the 1976 montreal

first up tonight, a conversation with boxing legend sugar ray leonard. he is out with a new memoir with his ups and downs. the new best seller is called "the big fight." two-time oscar nominated actress miranda richardson is here. sugar ray leonard and miranda richardson coming out right now. >> all i know is his name is james, and he needs extra help with his reading. >> i'm james. >> yes. >> to everyone making a difference -- >> thank you. >> you help us all live better. >> nationwide insurance supports tavis smiley. with every question and answer, nationwide insurance is happy to help tavis improve financial literacy and remove obstacles to economic empowerment one conversation at a time. nationwide is on your side. >> and by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like thank you. [captioning made possible by kcet public television] tavis: i am pleased to welcome sugar ray leonard back to this program. he became a household name after the summer olympics in montreal, he went on to become one of the most well-known boxers. he is out with a memoi

thank you. >> charlie: sugar ray leonard is here.e captured the world attention at the 1976 olympics in montreal when he won a gold medal. the rest the history. he was voted the fighter of the decade ithe 80's by the boxing writ's association of america. during that period he beat roberto do ran and others. he wrote about this, my life in and out of the ring. i'm please to do have at this table sugar ray leonard for the first time. we were in washington together if you remember. i said to you once, why do yo continue to do this. you he all the money in the world because you've done it world. you had an enormous record and you just said this is what i know. i want to do what i know. >> it's quite simple, it is, it's who i am, it' what i know. looking ba, it reminds me of when i retired thattists never happy charlie until i got back tutoring. >> charlie: because it's a goal. it's who you are and what you know and also you need purpose. >> purpose and structure. i need structure. i need to know that t fight is ree months away. i want to

>> you know, he is thought so well of by the boxing community and by my family. >> sugar ray leonard,ch. >> thank you, don. >> nick charles, 64 years old. many of you remember where you were on this day exactly two years ago, the day the world lost the king of pop, talking about michael jackson. now on the second anniversary of his death i'll speak with his father, joe jackson. ways to ene its quality and performance, and making their factories more environmentally friendly. producing products that save on fuel and emissions, and some that can be reused again. ♪ and promoting eco-friendly and safety driving campaigns. ♪ one team. one planet. bridgestone. ♪ >> hard to believe it's been two years ago today the world lost that man, michael jackson. those two years have been -- have done little to ease the pain for fans or quiet the persistent questions about how he died, but this is certain. jackson was a singular talent, a man who lived big and left behind a legacy of musical excellence. today we're joined by michael jackson's father joe jackson. thank you for joining us, sir. how are y

my name sake is ray charles leonard. i met him in the ring so confident i would win the rematch. dn't have a chance and famously turned to referee aft a earth eighth round? >> i believe. yes. and said no mas. they say they -- they say he said "no mas" but i knew he indicated he didn't want anymore and the referee indicated that was t so apparently, that was the end of the fight. >> where does he rank, durant, among the toughest guys you fought, you fought some of the toughest, duran, hagler and hearns? >> duran was never given credit to be a boxer so smart, such a tactician in the ring. as far as punching ability, duran ranks number second, tommy helpers number one. duran was number two, as far as power was concerned. incredible fighter. >> what kind of relationship? i always wondered, do fighters have? did you know tommy helpers well, hang out behind the scenes, maybe got to know each other later after your careers? >> we became friends after our careers had ended and he calls me periodically on my cell phone, ray, how you doing? hey, tom mir, how much do you weigh? i said why? >

doesn't mesh. >> sugar ray leonard, the big fight, my life in and out of the ring.ing book. as i told you before, my grandfather was a boxer. and we both admired you so much. i still do. matter of fact, i admire you even more. what an honor to interview you about this book. you're a brave, brave man. thanks, ray. >> you bet. >> let's check stories across the country. police in oakland, california, searching for this man. saying they burr garrized his home before sexually assaulting her. victims hope the 13 seconds of video will hopefully capture him. >>> 13 cadets were rescued after lightning bolt struck the camp. no one was hurt. >>> and students across connecticut are not sweating the swelter aring temperature, the heat prompted early dismissals in a number of districts statewide. >>> all right. new developments in the run for the white house. and it's a name that we all know very well. rudy giuliani. weekly standard is reporting that he's going to give it another go in 2012. he already went to new hampshire and took a little of mitt romney's thunder, let's talk a

. >>> boxing legend sugar ray leonard was in oakland this evening signing copies of his new book. he has written a book about his life and career called the big fight. my life in and out of the ring. he writes about some painful experiences revealing that he was sexually abused as a young boxer by an older man who was one of his trainers. leonard also says it has helped him to talk about that painful chapter of his life. >> my revelations about some of the things that i have dealt with, i've gotten so much more love, additional love. >> sugar ray leonard has the distinction of being the first boxer to win world titles in five different weight classes. more recently, he has been pursuing other careers, including broadcasting. >>> well, fire tears through an east bay elementary school. >> as if a fire weren't bad enough, school board members in one district are worried that a recent fire may have been set intentionally. >> also new details tonight about an accident that injured former . >>> dark smoke poured out of a louisiana plant. no one was hurt. people living near the plant wer

. >>> boxing legend sugar ray leonard was in oakland this evening signing copies of his new book. he has written a book about his life and career called the big fight. my life in and out of the ring. he writes about some painful experiences revealing that he was sexually abused as a young boxer by an older man who was one of his trainers. leonard also says it has helped him to talk about that painful chapter of his life. >> my revelations about some of the things that i have dealt with, i've gotten so much more love, additional love. >> sugar ray leonard has the distinction of being the first boxer to win world titles in five different weight classes. more recently, he has been pursuing other careers, including broadcasting. >>> well, fire tears through an east bay elementary school. >> as if a fire weren't bad enough, school board members in one district are worried that a recent fire may have been set intentionally. >> also new details tonight about an accident that injured former 49ers quarterback joe montana. who he swerved to avoid hitting and the ex tent of his injuries. --

. >> join me next time for "sugar" ray leonard and his boxing life outside of the ring. >> all i know is his name is james, and he needs extra help with his reading. >> i'm james. >> yes. >> to everyone making a difference -- >> thank you. >> you help us all live better. >> nationwide insurance supports tavis smiley. with every question and answer, nationwide insurance is proud to join tavis in working to improve financial literacy and remove obstacles to economic empowerment one conversation at a time. nationwide is on your side. >> and by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. [captioning made possible by kcet public television] captioned by the national captioning institute --www.ncicap.org-- i took it into a shop once and they said-- they thought it was probably worth perhaps £100 but i ought to get it looked at by such as yourself to get a value on it. so you really would like to know the value? well, i think it is for me something that really appeals. this reminds me of when i wake up in the morning, i have a big fig tree in my garden full of birds.

it was a wonderful golden age in the '80s with sugar ray leonard and marvin hagler and tommy hearns and the tyson years came along. >> reporter: these days it's about love taps from 5-year-old giovanna. it's not his first time around. he's had two previous marriages, three grown kids, melissa, jason and katrina. he's had plenty of regrets. for a long time, nick charles had been searching. >> i really wanted happiness and i just hadn't found it. at 45 years old, meeting corey, i did immediately and having a baby come into the world and a girl, which i prayed to god for every day, make it be a girl, make it be a girl. >> reporter: it was. and nick revels in every moment with his girls, giovanna and his wife, corey. the one thing nick doesn't have is time. even giovanna knows it. >> you don't get to go to heaven yet. >> no, i'm not going to heaven yet. still hanging around to play candyland and win. >> no, i'm going to win. >> reporter: in early 2009, nick was the happiest he's ever been. but a shadow was creeping in. the robust nick charles had never been sick in his life. but something w

. >> with sugar ray leonard. >> i don't like this medicare debate. i feel like everyone is playing it a bit. >> i found out that believes the president and john boehner respect each other. that ain't nothing. willie, if it's way too early, what time is it? >> "morning joe." see you tomorrow with "the rundown" with chuck. >>> leaving afghanistan sooner than later. with bin laden dead, there's a drumbeat growing to expedite the pullout. today the president has his monthly war meeting with his national security team. >>> rick santorum makes it officials. he may have company. >> plus -- >> we're only inches away from being a free economy. >> really? we'll see if his line and a few others can pass the truth-a-meter. it's monday, june 6. opting for a faster, and larger troop withdrawal. the most amazing thing this morning is the silent. >> that's right. while we haven't heard anything from the administration is we can tell you the president, vice president expected to sit down with members of the national security team in just about an hour. as you say, am

earlier i spoke to sugar ray leonard, one of the greatest boxers ever. >> it came as a shock to me. a proud guy and he was such a fighter himself. and he didn't relate all that he was ill. i didn't know the severity of his illness until recently. but nick was a class act. without question. >> and exactly two years ago on this day, the world lost michael jackson. the king of pop died on june 25th, 2009, before he could mount a comeback tour. the official cause was a prescription drug overdose. jackson's doctor, dr. conrad murray, will be tried for manslaughter in september. i got a chance to speak today to jackson's father joe jackson. he defended himself against rumors that he was too rough on michael and his brothers and sisters. >> everybody back in those days abused -- they didn't abuse the kids, they whipped the kids when they did wrong. now, you can't do that these days because if you whip a kid now, they call 911 on you. >> more from my interview with joe jackson later on in this show. >>> north carolina's governor declared a state of emergency today in 29 of its 100 counties

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