the cia began building its base in 1955 with the u-2 spy plane because the cia wanted to spy on russia and see what they were doing. and one of the other men i interviewed in my book was herby stockman and he past two months ago which was also a really interesting side note that the men on a interviewed in the last chapter of their lives but he explained to me what it was like to be the first man to fly over the soviet union in a you to, and yes he agitated mickey the crush of greatly, and yes there was a lot of fallout between the eisenhower administration and the soviets over this spying that was going on but at the same time would hurt the stock then brought back from the u-2 was over 400,000 square feet of supply footage of what was going on in the soviet union and as her she said to me, the cia was able to learn and understand the soviets were not lining up for world war iii as many members of the air force wanted to believe certainly the general has a character in my book as well you might call him and antagonized. when you consider that the cia's job is to prevent intelligence t

officials because the cia operates under different legal authorities than the military the cia will have greater latitude to carry out strikes no matter what the political climate they are. you're lucky you know the worst they don't have to ask anybody's permission to go through the yemeni leader who is now out of the country after months of violent popular revolt against him and his government for many years had been supported by the us in exchange for letting americans to work there all crying yemen as we could leaks cables often taking credit for the u.s. drone strikes we have to remember that scores of civilians were killed in those strikes or the support of the yemeni authorities was much needed to carry on with iraq war on the other hand the government the alley abu. salim who's been in power for some thirty years was so unpopular in recent years among the people of yemen that many analysts say it was only due to the u.s. support that sally had stayed in power for so long so for years sally needed the u.s. and the u.s. needed solly but now with the political turmoil there the u.s.

i say this because i care tremendously about the morale of the cia, about the personnel. i think it's in pretty good shape right now because i think leon panetta was good and worked at it. she brought to people with him but no more. other cia directors since i've been on this committee much less in the senate have been less effective, some have demoralized cia, some have developed sort of a close the end of advisers to whom the term but the haven't been good at reaching down into unexpected analyst who gets a phone call of a sudden reaching outside the usual chain of command. it's my impression that first of all you want to be a champion for the cia. that's very important. it's also my impression that you want to focus on your duties and you use the phrase and your testimony that you understand that you will be commanded a very large agency and will be involved in public policy but not necessarily the nation's leading discuss serve policy on meet the press so to speak. in other words, i think the cia will will get you first and they will be very impressed as obviously ever

, the evolution of the cia. it is interesting to me -- he made the statement, "i will get out of the car all by myself." you not have a uniform on and you will be, in a sense, a new person to them. i say that because i care tremendously about the morale at the cia, the personnel, and i think it is in pretty good shape right now because i think leon panetta really work at it. he brought two people with him, but no more. other cia directors, since i have been in this committee, have been less effective, some have demoralized the cia, some have developed a very close band of advisers to whom they turn, but they have not been good at reaching down to an unexpected analyst to get a phone call, reaching at said of the usual chain of command. it is my impression, first of all, that you want to be a champion for the cia. that is very important to you. it is also my impression that you want to focus on your duties there and used the phrase that you understand will be commanding a very large agency and you'll be involved i

they were never funded by the cia. they were in fact funded mostly out of saudi arabia is other donations from gulf arab states. they had it difficult. the acting is just one country back. the saudi backed mujahedin wanted to create an islamic state in afghanistan. so the true groups to work together. they had a common goal and liked to kill soviets. although there are very few reliable accounts of areas fighting soviets. they spent a lot of time fighting each other. one thing that releases the car bomb was something called the camel bomb with explosives and allowed them to detonate against afghanistan. into this mix is ksm and he goes to see the founder would later become the al qaeda training camps on a hilltop overlooking the refugee camp in pakistan and from the hilltop you can see into the mountains of afghanistan, about 40 miles away. and through him he needs the number of people, but the last time, the osama bin laden. he probably needs bin laden also bin laden denies that was his first meeting. he begins develop

there was the turnaround in iraq and came leading the war in afghanistan and now the path to lead the cia but will america's favorite top brass. as america's top spy. it's thursday june twenty third i'm christine for now in washington d.c. you're watching r.t. well starting off today just down the street from here on capitol hill an implosion after a tense talks on how to raise the debt ceiling reached a head over the issue of taxes congressman eric cantor and senator jon kyl both republicans actually walked out of the meeting apparently over talk of proposed tax hikes or as republicans have said since day one are off the table vice president biden has been meeting with lawmakers in hopes of reaching a deal by next week to raise the fourteen point three trillion dollars debt ceiling before it from the treasury department runs out of money if congress does not act by august second default could occur which would in turn have bruising the facts on the economy and the markets around the world so what does this mean for u.s. debt. for more i want to go now to our new york studio to talk with

officials because the cia operates under different legal authorities than the military the cia will have quote greater latitude to carry out strikes no matter what the political climate fear greater latitude in other words they don't have to ask anybody's permission to bomb the country. right there now of the czech republic has reportedly pulled out of the us defense missile plan for europe defense minister told reporters the decision was made out of frustration with the country's minor role in the project of the bush administration first proposed stationing shield elements in poland and the czech republic to protect europe from any potential attack from iran russia angrily objected saying the plan threaten its own security and warned that it would station its own missiles in the baltic region if the project went ahead later the obama administration it shelved that plan and offered a new reconfigured program for a smaller role with the czechs now proud he says it wants to take part but not in this way. well you can always catch up to the stories we're covering online and artsy dot com pl

and the isi are cooperating but the cia is running effectively covert ops with the isi and the isi the jihadi groups to attack and infill rate the cia and that spider's web seems very well. >> that is drawn from life. the truth is these intelligence services operate against each other. that happens more in real life not just with pakistan. we have a complicated intelligence relationship with france. we have a complicated intelligence relationship with other allies, but there's a way in which the cia and isi both absolutely need each other, and absolutely don't trust each other, and it's been a particularly volatile combination, because they're always marching in tandem. imagine the situation where one guy is sort of tripping the other, nudging him or up to some kind of horseplay. that's what it's like and i used to think that these two should get a marriage counselor and figure it out. i've given up on that. the reality is intelligence services lie. that's what their job is. these guys will keep lying to each other. they need political control to get them going in the same directio

government and of the cia. hat the fact that we supposedly gave them some information about a bomb making factory that was making ieds being moved into afgh afghanist afghanistan. when the pakistanis moved on this of course the facilities were supposedly empty. somebody had been tipped off. the problem here is that we're both in this fight. pakistan, the government in islamabad is as much in the crosshairs of the extremists and terrorists as the united states is. if things go bad in afghanistan, it hurts pakistan. pakistan is riding this extremist tiger. when they get off, that tiger may look at theoid rider and they may have a problem. >> peter brookes, thanks. >>> coming up, edie hill looks at another undeclared war. >> a tweet went out tonight that said tango down cia.gov. a group of hackers have brought down cia web site. leon panetta, cia director talked about the threat from cyber warfare and the security threat being our next pearl harbor. we'll take a look at how serious the problem is. >> fascinating st

everyone's in a while, the cia asks questions. >> is there anything keeping the cia from conducting interrogations? >> if intelligence is the primary objective, the cia individual becomes central to the questions being asked. that is the way it works now. if there is an emphasis on that, that is one case. if it is a military case or an individual that could involve follow on the military, they would take the lead. they work as a team and they do it on a case by case basis. >> nothing prohibits the cia from being the lead in conducting investigations? to your knowledge, does it happen now? i understand it is a team. >> it is not the direct interrogation that used to take place early on in this decade. it is much more of a team approach. that is the way it works. >> i wanted to follow up with respect to the detainee treatment act. do you agree with all of the provisions of the detainee treatment act, including the provisions to provide legal authority for interrogations'? -- interrogations? >> i honestly, i agree with the law. >> you talked about your view on waterboarding. do you think all enhance

the cia and the u.s. government supported seven different afghan factions who were fighting the soviets. the arab factions, bin laden, was one of the leaders -- one of the smaller factions -- the arab factions were never funded by the u.s. government. they were never funded by the cia. they were, in fact, funded mostly out of saudi arabia and a collection of other donations from gulf arab states. they had a different goal. the afghans just wanted their country back. the saudi-backed mujahedeen wanted to create an islamic state in afghanistan. so these two groups didn't work together. they had a common goal that they like to kill soviets, although, the arabs didn't like to kill them very much. there are very few reliable accounts of arab fighting soviets. they spent a lot of time fighting each other. one of the things i realized is the car bomb before it existed, there was something called the camel bomb, where they load camels with explosives and allowed them to detonate against rival arab factions in afg

obviously what the cia did is core of this problem. having heard this, having read the stories that have emerged over the last few days, what do you believe should happen and what should be done to pursue and investigate this? >> well, it's clearly extremely improper and illegal even for the paragraphs that may have been sent over which were unobjectionable about an american citizen, cia shouldn't be telling the white house about an american citizen and it's just impossible for me to believe that the white house asked the cia to google me and they were just passing along publicly available information. there must have been an implication that they should actively dig up some kind of dirt. and that is illegal and it's extremely troubling, and i believe that the senate intel je find out what's going on and who the request came from at the white house and what's the background of this. i think eric holder should look into it at the department of justice and i think that unless we get to the bottom of this story, we can't be sure that there

obviously what the cia did is core of this problem. having heard this, having read the stories that have emerged over the last few days, what do you believe should happen and what should be done to pursue and investigate this? >> well, it's clearly extremely improper and illegal even for the paragraphs that may have been sent over which were unobjectionable about an american citizen, cia shouldn't be telling the white house about an american citizen and it's just impossible for me to believe that the white house asked the cia to google me and they were just passing along publicly available information. there must have been an implication that they should actively dig up some kind of dirt. and that is illegal and it's extremely troubling, and i believe that the senate find out what's going on and who the request came from at the white house and what's the background of this. i think eric holder should look into it at the department of justice and i think that unless we get to the bottom of this story, we can't be sure that there weren't

the man would owned the safe house the cia used to monitor bin laden detained. the man would reported those coming and going to the secret compound, also detained by the pakistani government supposedly a u.s. ally. that prompted the understatement of the day. >> our relationship with pakistan is extremely important. it is also complicated. >> reporter: on capitol hill there was outrage. >> how long do we support governments that lie to us? >> most governments lie to each other. that's the way business gets done. >> do they also -- do they also arrest the people that help us when they say they're allies? >> sometimes. sometimes. >> not often. >> and sometimes they send people to spy on us and they're our close allies. >> reporter: rooting out the enemy in pakistan may now be harder than ever. >> if the united states doesn't have local pakistani informants, then it's going to be very, very difficult for the united states to stage operations inside pakistan. and that's exactly what the pakistani government wants. >> reporter: with the u.s. handing over control of th

officials say the cia is stepping. the construction of a military base in the persian gulf which will house unmanned attack drones the be used to strike targets in yemen which is officially an american ally in the war on turf well for more i'm no joined live from the u.s. capitol by correspondent john. go on why would washington want to attack one of the noise. well now they decided to task the cia with chasing down al qaida yemen and that marks a major escalation of america's covert war in yemen which is not really covert it's one of the undeclared wars that the u.s. is waging against terror but up to this day in yemen it's been the u.s. military that was running the show that was carrying out the drone strikes sort of in cooperation with the yemeni counter in counter terrorism units but now amid the power vacuum and all the political turmoil in yemen the cooperation is falling apart and courting to u.s. officials because the cia operates on a different legal authorities than the military the cia will have greater lati

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in the meantime, the cia has taken matters into its own hands. remotely piloted drones have fired more than 200 hellfire missiles and bombs at targets in the tribal areas. officially, the cia does not speak about the drone war, but an agent who once ran the campaign agreed to talk to frontline. >> the calculus is really a very simple one: it's trying to kill people before they kill you. it's as simple as that. now, it may have the knock-on and potentially intended effect- - you hope-- of discouraging further militancy. when people see others, you know, going up in a puff of smoke, you know, one hopes that will induce people to go home and sit out the fight. this is very much a "kill or be killed" situation, and that's very much the dynamic that governs this. >> smith: the drone war was initially conceived to kill only the leadership of al qaeda and the taliban, but president obama has dramatically widened the campaign. under his administration, the cia has launched nearly five times more strikes than it did under president bush. >> there are many

it is not just the air force that is there, it is the cia. i write about the atomic agency. now that is the department of energy. you have all kinds of a government presence in the desert. none of which the government will talk about. they still will not officially say at area 51 exists. tavis: how the know, this is a dance tax. how did you get all of this? >> my research began when i was at a christmas dinner party seated next to a scientist named edward who live here in california. he said he had a story for me. as a reporter i hear that a lot. but what he said to me was phenomenal. starting in 1957, he developed stealth technology for the cia at area 51.

what's the story with james arise and what is the cia is is trying to. get out and what makes him so special for them well in my book james bryson is something of a super if you're a journalist he helped reveal the n.s.a. spying program back during the bush administration where all of the americans electronic communications were getting swept up inside of her and more of her keywords and escalated to other levels. most recently he revealed the bush administration was trying to intimidate a critic. now he's he's been kind of a thorn in their side and even by his president dick cheney was rumored to have pressured the justice to try to go after him they got turned on him and what he published in two thousand and six really set in was basically here if you don't. do us so it was held it seems he was using a russian scientists to spoil all that information to the iranian nuclear program but nuclear triggers our new york times best story but he brought it back in two thousand and six with his book state of war and didn't want that and so much so they began inv

secret wars across the world from yemen to somalia and in fact it's just now being reported that the cia is built. secret base to launch drone warfare in yemen somewhere else in the middle east so now they wage war spending money hire contractors all out of the purview of the american public so one can only imagine that they exerts a lot more influence on america's foreign policy than will ever next i want to respond to feelin six six six from you two he said alone has a fetish for computer geeks well you got me there i love the hackers and i love the geeks and in fact speaking of hackers just about thirty minutes ago little said took credit for taking down the cia website. really makes you wonder if they can take down the cia is anyone safe once again when the day i'll have more responses for you next week. now a few weeks ago we first brought you the case of the shooting of a former marine. a swat team in pima county arizona had targeted a target as old as part of a series of drug rates before during and could answer the door the door was broken in by swat and they saw the raid i was h

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that saddam hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from africa a year earlier the cia had sent wilson to investigate the uranium claim and he knew it wasn't true their level of corruption there is demonstrated from the top down is staggering to the american people so he wrote about it in the new york times that touched off a firestorm at the white house coolness robert novak tried to discredit wilson by writing a story that wilson's wife valerie plame who worked at the cia sent him on the trip trouble was she worked as a spy for the cia nobody was supposed to know she works there the cia even told no that's not them published that information but know that they had. told me he asked me not to use your name did not say she was a she was a covert. activities former president bush was not a. human intelligence. is very important. it's pretty hard to get it. or somebody's working clandestine service. his name is going to appear and i'm sure that poster and its place deputy defense secretary richard admitted he was the first to leak this guy's name and he apologized for it.

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secretary gates, i'll start with you. >> well, the first law i would say, 27 years in the cia and 4 1his job, most governments lie to each other. that's the way business gets done. >> do they also arrest the people that help us? >> sometimes. >> when they say they're allies? >> sometimes. >> not often. >> and sometimes they send people to spy on us. and they're our close allies. >> and we give aid to them? >> that's the real world that we deal with. >> for more on that seemingly upside down world i spoke earlier with mark mazetti who broke the story for the "new york times." also reza saa and frank townsend currently a member of the department of homeland security and cia external advisory committee. >> as we said before, cnn has confirmed these are low level operatives providing information on bin laden. and it seems like thes can't do much about this. is this how this kind of thing normally plays out? >> reporter: anderson, now that this has become public as we've seen from the "new york times" and the reporting that we've got, assuming they've got people in custody, this becomes a

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the deputy director of the cia told a closed door hearing on capitol hill it's a three on a scale of ten. according to republican senator lindsey graham, relations are close to the breaking point. >> we're at a crossroads with pakistan. we're on a collision course with pakistan. >> reporter: while the u.s. wants pakistan to go after the support network which allowed bin laden to hide in plain sa sight, pakistan has arrested and interrogated five people suspected of helping the cia pull off the raid. it's all part of a spy versus spy game the u.s. plays with one of its most important applies, and defense secretary gates told democratic senator patrick leahy, get used to it. >> how long do we support governments that lie to us? when do we say enough is enough? >> based on 27 years in cia and four and a half years in this job, most governments lie to each other. that's the way business gets done. >> reporter: although cia drone strikes against terrorist safe havens in pakistan's border area continue without letup, pakistani intelligence at the same time actually protect some of the terro

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novak tried to discredit wilson by writing a story that wilson's wife valerie plame who worked at the cia sent him on the trip trouble was she worked as a spy for the cia nobody was supposed to know she worked there the cia even told no that not to publish that information but know that did what mr harlow told me he asked me not to use your name did not say she was she was a cover employee and i still don't believe she was engaged in any covert activities former president bush was not a. used human intelligence spies. is very important. it's pretty hard to get it. if somebody working clandestine service. his name is going to appear i'm sure the poster and if place deputy defense secretary richard retires admitted he was the first to leak the spies name and he apologized for it. but white house staffers karl rove in lewis libby also sprayed the covert agents name to reporters at the same time for sharing the president's own press secretary they had nothing to do with it they are good individuals there are important members of our white house team and that's why i spoke with them so that i

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everyone's in a while, the cia asks qstions. >> is there anything keeping the cia from conducting interrogations? >> if intelligence is the primary objective, the cia individual becomes central to the questions being asked. that is the way it works now. if there is an emphasis on that, that is one case. if it is a military case or an individual that could involve follow on the military, they would take the lead. they work as a team and they do it on a case by case basis. >> nothing prohibits the cia from being the lead in conducting investigations? to your knowledge, does it happen now? i understand it is a team. >> it is not the direct interrogation that used to take place early on in this decade. it is much more of a team approach. that is the way it works. >> i wanted to follow up with respect to the detainee treatment act. do you agree with all of the provisions of the detainee treatment act, including the provisions to provide legal authority for terrogations'? -- interrogations? >> i honestly, i agree with t law. >> you talked about your view on waterboarding. do you think all enhance inte