tito jackson, great to have you here. made their debut in 1969, it was as if all of america fell in love with you guys. you were touring and competing for years before you made it big. what was that time like? >> oh, that was a lot of work. and a lot of practicing and traveling. actually, we had this little volkswagen van we used to pack with equipment, and we used to sleep and sit on the equipment because there were no seats on it, and we would ride for hours like this, whether we were going to wisconsin or st. louis or chicago, or new york, this is how it worked. >> hard to imagine you legends all crammed into a vw van. and things changed for you when you guys met berry gordy. >> i remember the first time we saw the mansion, we were all in awe because we had never seen something so extrav gnlt. he had this golf course in his yard. he bet all of us he would give us $100 if we could do a hole in one. we didn't know how hard it was, but we toured the whole yard trying to put the golf ball in the hole. >> and you never coul

very, very weak. >> tito jackson couldn't get a hold of his mother as he raced to ucla medical centernet stopped him in his tracks. >> i said janet, is he dead? and she said, he's gone. and i just melted right there, and i didn't know what to do. i pulled over in this parking lot and just cried for like 15 minutes and went back home. >> jermaine jackson did make it to the hospital as the crowds and media began to swell outside. inside, his brother michael lay dead. >> they had -- they had a sheet wrapped on top of him. i could feel his skin, still soft and smooth, and i just kissed his forehead so much and i just talked to him. the memories, that's what hurt. and to know that there would never be another jackson 5. >> despite his overwhelming grief, it was jermaine who delivered the family's official announcement that michael was dead. and you have to go out from that hospital, and you have to tell the world. >> um-hum. i couldn't believe that i was announcing my brother's death for the world. it was -- i was numb. very numb, because it was like a nightmare. >> my brother, the legenda

. >> jimmy: after michael jackson. >> tito. >> jimmy: how he's doing. >> he's fantastic.e waiting for the meltdown phone call. >> jimmy: you are not monitoring him on the baby cam. >> no, i don't have the forethought of here, let's look into the belly of a stuffed animal. >> jimmy: are you enjoying father hood. >> it's great, i've had six-hours of sleep since march. you learn to multi task. i'm asleep right now. deep in rem sleep right now. you got to do multiple things at the same time. >> jimmy: have people been giving you advice as far as how to be a father and how to do things? >> i think people like to do that generally. it was a little intimidating last summer when my wife and i told all of our friends. we were at a barbecue and i was in a circle of guys with kids. they were giving me advice. i'm like what's father hood like. each guy goes around, it's the greatest thing that ever happened to you. it wilopen up a part of your heart you never knew existed. the truest form of love you'll experience. the guy at the end goes i don't know, man. >> jimmy: really? >> i go,

jackson, the mother. it's hurtful to the kids, to the brothers and sisters, to randy, to tito, to jermaine and janet, but this family together now. >> alan, let me bring you into this discussion. when michael jackson died, nine of the top ten downloaded songs were michael jackson songs after his death. how is his music selling today? >> certainly, that explosion of all the interest and all the love that was allowed to come out after his passing. as you said, it was just nine of the top ten itunes downloads, the entire top of the album chart in the aftermath, all of this attention in sales and certainly didn't sustain to that level for two years since. i don't think there's any question, you hear a lot more michael jackson song on the radio now than you did in the months before he passed. i think it's clear that now the catalog is, you know, again part of the musical landscape in a way for the 10 or 12 years before his passing it really hadn't been. >> i know when michael jackson was alive, it was said when he would record an album, he would record hundreds and only 10 or 12 would make the album and he die