commissioner kingsley: what would be a good date for that, lieutenant falvey? >> we schedule closed session items in closed sessions. commissioner kingsley: that's great. appreciate that. president mazzucco: what date do you think we should schedule this? commissioner chan, we were thinking maybe on the 24th -- excuse me. >> 24th of august? president mazzucco: no. >> what time are you talking about? commissioner chan: i think it's going to be -- >> commissioner turman: i'd like to get a priority list done first. because, you know, the whole thing is to figure out what we're going to do and if we keep usurping, then it become as moot point. so i just -- you know, let's decide kind of what we're going to do before we schedule it. that would be my concern, trying to follow protocol. commissioner chan: i have a suggestion because i knew that would come up and makes sense to organize our priorities. and knowing the way c.i.t. worked and the way other things worked is that we should first get a presentation from the department, not a long one but a short one, where a

. >> i'll keep putting it through lieutenant falvey. first class of cpsa graduate this week, after a little bit of -- if you'll pardon the kerfluffle with the union they finally got out to the stations and will finish and be deployed. we'll talk more about that. we graduated 47 young people from the p.a.l. cadet graduation and also will be going out to the station. that's approximate twice as many kids that went through last year which was our inaugural class and hopefully that program will continue to grow. for anybody interested, there's going to be a rededication of the sculpt chur at seventh and bryant on friday, i believe, on friday morning. the arts commission will be there, certainly if anybody from the commission would want to be there. i'll be there. and then lastly, there's been some reports in the news on ksbs and ktvu an announcement captain garrity made he had gone from 101 officers to 74 officers in the tenderloin which upset the people in the tenderloin as they feel the climb -- feel crime is on the rise and we rechecked

i don't know why but -- >> i may or may not be here that day. >> lieutenant falvey will be on vacation. >> all right. >> is there any public comment regarding line items 3 a, b, c or d? the commissioner report and scheduling of items? >> commissioners, good evening. for the record, my name is emil lawrence. i have a few brief comments. first of all, i think for the public at large, and i'm not sure who is supposed to handle this, but someone should direct some of you on how to use the microphone. based on the various levels of your speech, and whether you're addressing the public at large or whether you're addressing one another on a question because it's very difficult for us to follow you on exactly what you're doing. what you're discussing. in relation to whosequestion. for the last 30 minutes, i listen to most of you and it's very hard for me to determine what was going on here. whether someone was answering the question, asking a question or just making gossip to one another based on some of the statistics that were read. it's very difficult to follow. this is a public forum, a pu

. >> thank you, lieutenant falvey. welcome, ladies and gentlemen, to the july 13, 2011 police commission hearing. ladies and gentlemen, tonight is what we call our discipline night so we have some closed matters, disciplinary hearings which by law have to be held in closed session so we have a very light agenda before that so we now move to line item number one which is general public comment. >> item number one, general public comment. the public is now welcome to address the commission regarding items that do not appear on tonight's agenda but that are within the subject matter jurisdiction of the commission. speakers shall address their remarks to the commission as a whole and not individual commissioners or department or o.c.c. personnel. under police commission rules of order, during public comment, neither police or o.c.c. personnel or commissioners are required to respond to questions presented by the public but may provide a brief response. individual commissioners and police and o.c.c. personnel should refrain

. >> and i guess lieutenant falvey, i know what we have next week but it would be useful in our packets we discuss what's coming up later in the month just generally so we can have a little bit of a head's up. so i know we've got a big meeting next week. i don't know what's on the following weeks? >> we put something on last week for the 20th, the community ambassador program. >> i believe you put that in last week. >> all right. >> are there other significant disciplinary matters happening later in the month? thrs an item -- there's an item to discuss in closed session about that. but any other open session, significant open sessi