jesus. jesus. jesus christ. >> often these jesus sightings require lots of imagination, whether it be jesus orkey cheeto jesus. even a virgin mary could be madonna. ♪ [ music ] but this telephone pole in littleton, colorado, strikes most people the same way. >> what do you see? >> jesus on a cross. >> jesus. >> yeah. what do you think? >> oh. >> folks pointed out what looks like a crown of thorns. the body's positioning. >> look at the legs. you know, yeah. >> he is like that. >> while you might think a telephone pole jesus is pretty unique. turns out he's not alone. the utility poles have been sprouting religious images for years all over the country. >> it does look like jesus hanging on the cross. >> that's a group of vines, man. that was put there by him. >> this one in lake charles, louisiana, from last fall was said to be most striking when seen as you drove by. and while one local was quoted as saying you can't spray jesus with roundup. workers did cut down the vines. officials were worried believers wou

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present him as a god of love and so many other things what we're doing in marketing of jesus christ is presented in jesus in this way in other words the bible way so whatever means we do it through whether it's a television literature stand in a street corner talking to people at work at the office or anywhere else communicating the message it's all about presenting jesus in the way the buy a book presents him it's also i mean it could be fair it's a business to i mean you have to have a business model and they're casting any aspersions on your work whatsoever but you know in filming this message and in the the ideas associated with this person at the center of this religion you do have to have a business frame don't you. well yes and then of course there's a difference of the people in the world they're the genuine genuine christians who want to present and from what jesus christ correctly and there are those who want to make money and therefore they see marketing as a means by which they can persuade people to buy their clocks and you listed a few already there's many others as we know they want people

the one kids want to eat ♪ jesus christ superstar ♪ do you think you are what they say you are ♪ ♪ jesusre what they say you are ♪ >>> "jesus christ superstar" the music that propelled you into the strattosphere. very controversial at the time. of course this moment the musical is exploding and winning tonys. >> i don't know. maybe you can't, maybe some people these days you can't shock people. but we never wrote superstar to be in any way shocking. we wrote it because we wanted to write the story of the man. in fact, we really wanted to write a love triangle because the whole thing was, did jesus christ have god on his side. which bob dillon and i did. did jesus get betrayed. what's very thrilling for me is that this production up in canada. it's really the first time that i've seen the love triangle absolutely tackled broad side. >> you've created these amazing musicals. in '76 it's launched. even now people are doing new versions of them. >> it depends on the quality of the actors and performers. this one is very well acted. superstar nobody was interested in doing it in the theater w

jesus christ. >> bill: in what context? >> he refers three times. >> bill: i like the lord jesus christ? >> no. didn't. >> bill: keep christ in christmas bumper sticker on his volvo? look, there is no evidence this guy is in church, has anything to do with jesus, and just because he calls himself a christian, mussolini called himself a christian. >> he says we believe in christianity as a cultural, social identity and moral platform. this makes us christian. >> bill: what? that's insane. evidence doesn't say he believes in jesus christ and jesus' teaching. >> he calls himself a cultural christian. who are we to decide whether he is a christian or not? my point. >> bill: mussolini said he was a christian and mussolini went to church, he was a catholic. that's insane. you can call yourself whatever you want. here's the difference. there is no evidence this man was a member of a church. no evidence that he followed the teachings of jesus christ, as you know. they are nonviolent. okay? no evidence that he had anything to do with the christian faith. yet, they call him a christian because he says he

may be this kid will be a piece maker, a modern day jesus christ as this jew understands jesus. i don't know what does. week 21, everyone thinks i'm having a boy. by everyone, i mean the waiter and my grandmother and neighbor across the street. i was getting out of my car and she yelled "your having a boy". week 22, my family is involved in an all out campaign on the names i'm considering. she mocks the mothers calling after their sons, sebastion. i didn't realize lisa is racist. makes me like the name more. i say good, because i'm hoping for a fag. week 25, it's 4:00 a.m. and i'm give up for an hour. who do i do for circumcision. it's a covenant with god. it seems like they feel plenty of pleasure. may be we should reduce a man's pleasure. may be this was god's way of reducing a man's libido. may be my son is not going to study the torah. we need to identify proudly. but then, am i imposing my will on my child? i can't have a child. week 30, i have an appointment at the hollywood birth center where i will have natural childbirth, which i don't recommend. alex is my primary care

jesus. jesus. >> reporter: does it look like -- >> jesus christ. >> reporter: yeah. gination, whether it be jesus on a moth or cheeto jesus. >> i don't think god makes cheetos that look like jesus. >> reporter: even the virgin mary on grilled cheese could arguably be madonna, but this telephone pole in littleton, colorado, strikes most people the same way. what do you see? >> god or jesus. >> jesus on a cross. >> jesus. >> reporter: what do you see? >> oh! >> reporter: folks pointed out what looks like a crown of thorns, the body's positioning. >> look at the legs, see, like, you know, he's, like -- yeah. >> down like this, he's like that. >> reporter: but while you might think a telephone pole jesus is pretty unique, it turns out he's not alone. vine-covered utility poles have been sprouting religious images all over the country. >> it looks like jesus hanging on the cross. >> reporter: from north to louisiana. >> it was a bunch of vines. >> reporter: this one in lake charles, louisiana, from last fall was said to be most striking when seen as you drove by. one local

jesus christ in the coal mine. >> yes, yes. >> tell me about jesus christ in the coal mine. >> well, he everywhere. think after you go down in the mine, you're depending on the lord. and that's jesus christ. you can't depend on nobody else. how going to depend on. >> when people call you folk art and try to put you in a category. >> right. >> there are some people in the art world say that's racist. it's art. what do you think? >> i think it's art too because actually, i think all art is art. >> it seems to me that you don't let any of it bother you. >> nothing. nothing, and never have. >> not even the controversies? >> no. >> not even when people write about you or say about you. >> well, feel good about it. you know, you have to feel good of something. >> i'm just wondering dp you look at the stuff and go, all this for me? >> yeah, i think about it. i think about all of that, too, because it is amazing. it's amazing to see stuff that you have did and people have came and looked at it. >> thornton dial, so glad he opened up to me. thank you so much, sir. by the way, the exhibit is running now throu

jesus and the sermon on the mount. there's a line in there where jesus says you follow me, it's your risk. when jesus christ calls a person, he calls him or her to die. he was that devoted to what's there, but he also enjoyed the life that jesus also enjoyed. >> he could have died either way. >> but that -- >> he could have died either way, nonviolently. >> yeah, it took him a year and a half to get to him, but yes, he knew his doom. if you're trying to shoot the head man, you're doomed. they had all the power, and they got him, so there's nothing, no other alternative for him. he could only live by his witness. thank you. >> another question. sir, thank you. >> as one who is not even sure how to spell, dietrich bonhoeffer, know little about him. what led up to his imprisonment and final death. why was he in jail? >> okay. great question. by the way, when you should spell dietrich bonhoeffer. my name is marty, m-a-r-t-y. >> yeah, i heard of you. [laughter] >> you should hear the people in taiwan pronounce it. why he was in prison -- first of all, he was a resister all along, and those people in the reform c

jesus christ in the coal mine. >> yes, yes. >> reporter: tell me about jesus christ in the coal mine? >> well, he is a worker. ine, you're depending on the lord. and that's jesus christ. you can't depend on nobody else. who you going to depend on? >> reporter: people call you folk art. trying to put new a category. ship say thats racist. it's art i. think it's a cool thing because actually i think all art is eye. >> reporter: seems to me you don't let any of it bother you. >> nothing. nothing. it never has. >> reporter: not even the controversies? >> no. >> reporter: not even when people write or what they say about you? >> well, feel good about it. you know? you have to feel good about something. >> reporter: i'm wondering if you look at this stuff and you go, me? all this for me? >> yeah. i think about it. i think about it, all of that, too. because it's amazing. it's amazing to see stuff that i did, and people have came and looked at it. >> reporter: thornton dial, thank you so much. the exhibit running now through august 22nd in atlanta. >>> casey anthony, acquitted this week of murdering her little girl w

jesus siteings there. we pray as they expect an encounter, god would reveal his son jesus. starting august 1st is ramadan. we ask for believers to pray everyday for muslims to have an encounter with christ. last year a young woman went to mecca and commemorated, came back to jordan and confessed to 1 of her friends that she had dreams about jesus when she was there. the person in jordan she reached out to had dreams about jesus and a secret underground believer. she now found faith in christ. we are praying for thousands of experiences in mecca. >> prayer works. thank you tom doyle. we are out of time. thank you for joining us. >> amen. god bless you. >> to learn more how you can pray, visit our website at cwnews.org. it is there you'll find links to the 30-days prayer focus as well as e 3 partners. later on "christian world news"...>> walking in the tunnels of jerusalem. we found the bell in the tunnel. >>> archaeologists in jerusalem discover a tiny gold bell. see how it could be a priestly gold garment in the time of jesus. >> welcome back to "christian world news" we have been talking about praying for the muslim world during the month of ramadan. the bible tells us to pray for the peace of jerusalem. and the jewish state is facing a serious challenge after ramadan ends. muslim nations are backing palastinian calls recogni

christ jesus. behold all things are new. i'm righteous created in christ jesus.you got to know who you are. >> god is your company no other man in this world can ever give you. he's our father. he created us. in here it's really rough, brother, he helps us day to day to cope with our problems. >> this service has been a blessing to them. it edified them. it encouraged them even though they're incarcerated, that to give them a chance for hope and a new life. bless you. >> a weekly religious service, contemplation, reading, these are a few opportunities inmates at stateville have to somehow reach beyond the bars, the guards, and the prison walls. most will not see the outside ever again. or not for a very long time. but a few will. >> hello there. >> this is neil bell's last day in his cell at stateville. despite one stretch in the segregation unit, he's finishing up a two-year sentence for aggravated battery. as the final hours wind down, his emotions rachet up. >> i'm pretty anxious. been waiting for a while. the last week's the longest. just ready to go home, be

have our hosts another round of debate and crosstalk with a look at the role of jesus christ in a free market economy where jesus jeans christian rock and even jesus pills are available that's up next here. still. below in welcome to cross talk i'm peter lavelle does the lord need marketing some are selling christian rock jesus jeans and even jesus pills is this the right way to promote christianity in the twenty first century or is it a new profitable metion for those who have nothing to do with face.

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christ jesus. behold all things are new. i'm righteous created in christ jesus. >> you got to know who you are. no other man in this world can ever give you. he's our father. he created us. in here it's really rough, brother, he helps us day to day to cope with our problems. >> this service has been a blessing to them. it edified them. it encouraged them even though they're incarcerated, that to give them a chance for hope and a new life. bless you. >> a weekly religious service, contemplation, reading, these are a few opportunities inmates at stateville have to somehow reach beyond the bars, the guards, and the prison walls. most will not see the outside ever again. or not for a very long time. but a few will. >> hello there. >> this is neil bell's last day in his cell at stateville. despite one stretch in the segregation unit, he's finishing up a two-year sentence for aggravated battery. as the final hours wind down, his emotions rachet up. >> i'm pretty anxious. been waiting for a while. the last week's the longest. just ready to go home, be with my family. >> sunrise brings what for everyon

about a host another round of debate and cross talk right now with the role of jesus christ in a free market economy where jesus jeans christian rock and even jesus pills are available for next year. twenty years ago the largest country in the. us had been. began a journey. where did it take to. keep . flowing welcome to cross talk computable does the lord need marketing some are selling christian rock jesus jeans and even jesus pills is this the right way to promote christianity in the twenty first century or is it a new profitable mission for those who have nothing to do with faith. and you can. discuss christian marketing i'm joined by.

jesus and the sermon on the mount. it's a very famous line in there, you know, jesus says you follow me, you're high risk. and bonhoeffer said, when jesus christ calls a person, he calls him or her to die. so he was that devoted to what's this. but he -- what's there. but he also enjoyed the life that jesus also enjoyed. >> bonhoeffer could have died either way. >> with what's that? >> bonhoeffer could have died either way, nonviolently resisting hitler. he did die probably trying to resist hitler. >> yeah. well, it took him l a year and a half to get to him, but, yes, he knew he was doomed. again, if you're trying to shoot the head man, you're doomed. they had all the power, and they got him. so there's nothing, there's no other alternative for him. he could only live by his witness. thank you. >> another question. sir, thank you. >> as one who's not even sure how to spell bonhoeffer, i know little about him. but what led up to his imprisonment and final death? what was the background? why was he in jail? >> okay. that's a very good question. and, by the way, my name is marty, m-a-r-t-y. [laughter] >> i've heard of you. >> bonhoeffer, and you

god's praise than when we first begun >> will hold a gospel of our lord jesus christ according to matthew -- seeing the multitudes, jesusent up into a mountain and when he was set, his disciples came unto him. he opened his mouth and it taught them blessed are the poor and spirit for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. blessed are they that mourn for they shall be comforted. blessed are the meek for they shall inherit the earth. blessed are they which to wonder and thirst after righteousness for they shall be filled. blessed are the merciful for they shall obtain mercy. blessed are the pure in heart for they shall see god. blessed are the peacemakers for they shall be called the children of god. blessed are they who are persecuted for righteousness for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. blessed are ye when men shall revile you and persecute you and shell said all manner of evil against you falsely for my sake. rejoice and be exceedingly glad for great is your report in heaven, for the profits which are before you, the gospel of the lord. >> praise be to crest. --christ. [no audio] >> betty ford was my friend and i am honored