john vander promised not to be that kind of a speaker. but when a speaker loses a vote and the perception of power is power in washington, it is a weakened speakership. >> charlie cook said many house and senate members in the 2012, 2014, 2016 are going to lose their seats because congress has become a laughingstock over this. >> to pick up on what marks -- what mark said, john boehner -- the blandishments that worked in the past do not work anymore. you cannot do earmarks. what they worry about, some of these younger members, is a primary on their way. they are happy to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory because for them, it i ia personal victory. >> who is in trouble? orrin hatch maybe? >> absolutely. >> that is the hornets' nest of john boehner's existence. freshman of south carolina who went into the house chappell and came out and said they had collectively agreed after seeking higher power and instructions, to oppose john boehner. >> south carolina has been here before. [inaudible] they are prepared to do it again. >> that was 1

we are waiting for john vander to speak on the debt talks. >> to liquidation sales start today at some border stores across the country. there is word that builds a million could purchase several stores. that is still in talks. >> we are back with more and a couple of minutes. here is a look at one of our many live shots of the issues you around the bay. pretty clear skies. this is the approach to the bay bridge. a british lawmaker will ask police to investigate the claim contradicted the testimony of james rock that he was not aware of evidence of eavesdropping at one of his newspapers went beyond just one reporter. two of his former employees say that they told james murdoch which is our report murdoch's sun years ago about an e-mail x suspected hacking was more widespread the claims. >> nfl owners have okayed a deal. now players have to agree. it is a 10 year deal with players getting nearly half of all revenue. there is a $120 million salary cap. >> to buster posey will have surgery today after his collision in may that ended his season.. a runner came into home plate not to get ov