then i thought, okay, i'll take you to the makeup shop if you introduce me to miss dunham. so we made the deal. so we get to the school on 57th street, where her school was, and she was having these dances . auditions. and the drums were going, "bah-koong-ka-ko-kung, kung-kung-ko-kung, kung-kung" . so i joined the class and went, "oh-koong-ko-ko-kung, kung-kung" . (laughter) ek: and i won a full scholarship and that's how i got in. (laughter) (applause) ek: that's how i got here. (laughs) q: i have to point out you're actually the first guest who's ever done anything like that. (laughter) q: and now, a word from our sponsors. (laughter) ek: and i want you to know . excuse me, ken. but i want you to know that i'm going to be 75 years old on january 17th. (applause) ek: thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you. (laughs) q: so . so where did this confidence come from? ek: confidence? it's . i think hunger. i was . (laughter) ek: i wanted to survive on my own without having anyone be so responsible for me that i have to go to them and ask them for a piece of bread.